Rumble showed up on NEW record???


So I bought my first new record in years, in fact I bought several of them at once at my local Cracker Barrel. (Doesn’t everybody buy records at Cracker Barrel?) What caught my eye was the newly re-mastered Revolution album, and there was Abbey Road by the same crew, and Thriller by Michael Jackson, an Eagle’s Double Album. When I got them home, and had the time, I dropped the Revolution album on, but two things were immediately obvious: (1) There was a terrible rumble preventing me from getting much volume at all out of the speakers, (2) The anti-skate was much two strong; I couldn’t even get it to play the last two tracks on side 1, the stylus pulled out of the groove and slid back toward track 1.

I pulled the phono leads out of my pre-amp phono inputs and inserted my ELAC phono stage into the chain into a line input on the pre-amp. The ELAC had a rumble filter, but it had no effect. 
I don’t use my turntable often, but it has a new Sumiko high-output moving coil cartridge installed, the Songbird, and it doesn’t have many miles on it yet. It was professionally installed for me, and until my experience with the Revolution album, it worked just fine. I was very pleased. The anti-skate, however, is not easily adjustable: just a small weight on a very fine piece of fishing line. I could add weight easily, but taking it off would require disassembly, replacement of the weight, and reassembly. Frankly I found the antI-skate the most difficult part of the setup the Music Hall 5.3.

The only change to the system that might contribute to the rumble is the installation of the new (to me) Bowers & Wilkins 801 Series 2 speakers. There is a lot more sound pressure in the room when those babies fire up. The turntable is mounted on top of the Yggdrasil DAC, next to the Madrigal PDT3 on a shelf fastened securely to an internal wall. 
I bought the Music Hall turntable because I couldn’t get my older Numark PTT-1 DJ table quiet. It tumbled too when I had it on top of my Cerwin-Vega floor standers. Moving the turntable away from the speakers, even a little bit, solved that rumble problem. 
Anyway, interested in your suggestions and thoughts on the issue(s) described above. The record is still on the table, I just got discouraged and left it there. 

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To wrap this thread up, @noromance I found there wasn’t a problem money couldn’t solve. I bought a Pangea Vulcan turntable stand from Audio Advice. It arrived two days later, assembled easily, and seems quite stable. Added a 2nd shelf for storing records, so I have room for 200 in all, which pretty much my entire collection. The turntable is now installed on my system upstairs. The ‘Revolver’ album played flawlessly, warp and all; as did Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon. I miss the phono stage on my MC100 downstairs, and I hear a faint hiss from the speakers with the Freya+ in control, but the new (to me) XRT20s a singing a sweet, mellow, and full sound. There is an annoying hum when I touch the tone arm, but I touch the Freya while I’m doing anything, and it subsides to an acceptable level.
 

I am enjoying the easy access the upstairs system affords me. And I’m using my Oppo BDP-105D to its full potential, playing CDs, streaming (Pandora for now), and as. DAC for my phone or other sources as needed. 

@ghdprentice  you were right about the VTA tool shipping with the unit, it’s listed in the User Manual I finally got around to printing out. I wound up fashioning my own by grinding the short end of a 3mm Allen key down even shorter. The length has to be exactly right: small enough to slip into the mounting ‘cup’ and long enough to fully seat itself. I stopped grinding when the OD got to 1/2”. Taped it unobtrusively to plinth. 

@noromance Wait, it gets better,@nlitworld posted a link on the ‘Weak Link in Vinyl Playback’ thread to a ‘cheap vertical alignment block’ which I purchased, and used to check my alignment, I found that the ‘expert’ who sold me the turntable, upgraded and installed a new cartridge, failed to set the VTA correctly. It was actually off by more than twice the distance I had already moved it to clear the warped ‘Revolver’ vinyl. So, I never should have had the issue I did to begin with. (I suspect he thought, as I did before @ghdprentice pointed it out to me, that the VTA was not adjustable; but if that is so, he isn’t the expert he advertises himself to be.)

In addition, I’ve changed my mind on accepting warped records after watching videos by In Groove record store owner and Michael Fremer; I’ve decided to open up each record I buy and inspect for flatness, and reject the item if any is found. If In Groove can do it, so can I, plus I don’t want to spend over $3,000.00 on the tool to take the warp out. I think, in my case, the warp was caused by shrink-wrap that was just a bit too tight. 

@oldrooney 

I would not trust the rest of the set up either. Overhang is probably off also. You'll need a protractor. This is typical of store set ups. IMHE they are always off.

I have never had any trouble returning warped records with any of the big online stores.

Next time around get a moving Iron cartridge from Grado, Soundsmith, Goldring or Nagaoka. Any of these high output cartridges will outperform any high output MC cartridge and not by a small amount.

Just for the record (pun intended), records can exhibit severe rumble. All of the lathes used today to cut lacquers are very old and if they have not been properly maintained can rumble and transfer that to the lacquer. People without subwoofers may not notice it. I must have at least 10 records that rumble bad enough that I questioned the health of my own turntable switching to an old European pressing which turned out to be dead quiet. Unfortunately, all copies of that record are going to rumble also. Returning the record for another copy will not help.