Listen with your skin.

Great post! thanks and i concur with eric_squires..

Music is NOT a mere immersion of the body in a wall of sound , naked...Even if the hearing experience implied all the body... For example i felt deep bass extension with my body listening headphone and i felt the organ bass note with my stomach and feet by bone resonance... ( bass regime of the K340 is the only natural bass , not boomy  i ever listened to anyway, so much i love deep bass i hate boomy completely  )

it was in some concert immersion of the body mainly , which concert crowded i never goes in my hippie era...I hate crowd... And for me three person is the limit of a crowd... 😊

Music is a perceptive complex phenomenon, not a mere intense direct, one way, sensation, then music implicate a balanced communication between body-mind and soul...

But dont get me wrong, music is a viscereal experience for me , but implicating three elements not one : body-mind-soul... As it is certainly the case with eric_squires if i read between the line...😊

I won’t get into the skin changing what we hear, but different people experience music through the body more than others.

I personally do NOT want my body below my neck excited by bass or horns or anything else I play. It bothers me greatly, while others need to feel it in their gut. They need a (word carefully chosen) visceral experience.

There’s certainly a great deal of validity to including how you want to feel (not emotionally) when you listen to music, I just really hope you’ll all keep your shirts on in the store.

If we simplify to the maximum...

one piece of the argument is the body, another piece of the argument is the mind-soul...

Only one hand cannot clap , it takes two hands to make sound... Any argument has two sides also at least... It is in fact multidimensional... our attention is not...

And we dont understand quantum mechanics for the same reason we do not understand sound-hearing and even the Bible...😊

There is at least two levels of experience and meanings and of symbolic forms here...

There is physical MEASURABLE phenomenon in the horizontal dimension, but there is also a vertical non measurable level , the natural qualitative experienced phenomenon..

Physical measured VIRTUAL objects are not = to ACTUAL natural phenomenon...Natural phenomenon are not reducible to their physical measurable dimensions... History of science is to be understood as a spiralling move around this problem... It was not the case in the Platonic inspired unity of experience of Aristotelean times... It became conscious after nominalism in the 12th century, as a division more from the Galileean-Cartesian era... There is no nominalism at the focus center in the unitive Logos greek era...( anglo-saxon nominalism oppose logos phenomenological experience in german influenced cultures for example )

This is why sciences exist in the plural specialized diversities of all fields, under some necessary philosophical reflection, and cannot replace it; sciences did not exist at all as the totalitarian singular unidirectional mode of knowing where scientism-techno idolatry and blinders, or bad vulgarisation , want to established it for corporate and political interests...Or if we  simplify for the express needs  condition the crowd minds and cobntrol them as we have seen not long ago for those who use long term  memory ....😁

«Do not say hypothesis, and even less theory: say way of thinking. »Lichtenberg

«A leg of mutton is better than nothing,
Nothing is better than Heaven,
Therefore a leg of mutton is better than Heaven. »

Lichtenberg, the greatest humpback scientist of all times with Steinmetz perhaps ... 😁

Do any of you recall the articles some years ago about the deaf gentleman who listens with his hands holding a balloon?  He had serious systems, and said he could discern differences in cabling.  I suspect that his experience included more of his body than his fingertips.

Bill

very informative indeed...

blind listening music with a balloon :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNrcb-9Gi8c&t=12s

This example show us WHY measured by tools objects are NOT perceived natural phenomenon... They are related but not reducible to one another... Sound are not mere quantitative waves in a medium but also qualitatively perceived information and desired symbolic phenomenon originating from sound sources event properties put in vibration mode... ...

« We must listen to the idea» -- Deaf audiophile in the video 🧐

Do any of you recall the articles some years ago about the deaf gentleman who listens with his hands holding a balloon? He had serious systems, and said he could discern differences in cabling. I suspect that his experience included more of his body than his fingertips.

Bill

I had the honor of meeting Bob at the PAF 2022 show. I did not know of him prior to our meeting. We were exhibiting there. While playing music for a room full of people I noticed someone waiting for a front row seat. He was caring a large bag. Once he was seated he pulled a large balloon looking object out from the bag. I had no idea that the gentleman was deaf. I thought he was conducting some sort of an experiment. After he listened (with the balloon) for a while, he put the balloon back in the bag and then approached me. He explained that he is deaf and enjoys music through the use of the balloon. It acts like a mechanical amplifier for his fingertips. He complemented me on our system and then described its attributes perfectly. From his description you would not know that he heard the system through touch. We spoke for a little while. What an amazing experience. Not only was his ability to enjoy music inspiring but also how adaptive and resilient people can be. I always believed that we experience sound (music) with our entire body not just our ears. Not just low frequencies but full spectrum. For me, life experiences lead me to that conclusion.