Do hi-end DACs offer true value or diminishing return...


These two hi-fedelity recordings posted on Youtube allow one to audition the state-of-the-art, highly raved R2R DACs with values ranging from $850 all the way to $6,500. Please use headphone or, play back to your stereo system if you think your system is revealing enough. The question to ask to yourself is that the true hi-end (w/ high price tag) gears offer you true values or just a diminishing-return foolproof. In my system, I do hear the differences but, to me, the differences might not be that significant to justify the luxious spending. Maybe my system is not revealing enough.  Maybe the recording quality through the on-line broadcasting degrades.  How about you? Do you hear major differences? 

Terminator Plus ($6.5k), Venus II ($3k)

Terminator $4.5k, Ares II ($850)

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Your comparison is not even wrong!

A good dac is to a soundcard in any cheap component as a chariot is to a car...the two moves very  well and will transport you at the same place... BUT...😊

 

 

@mahgister +1! A DAC is essentially a sound card.

I hear some major difference between 3 DACs. 1st, the listener needs to know the sound of the original music.

Steven Wilson - Perfect Life /// Mr. Beasley (unplugged)

These recordings are dubbings. Not live recording and there is no sound from speakers. All 3 DACs have thick veils and those veils will be much thicker with using power amps and speakers. This shows the veil sound started already from the source in hi-end audio.

To my ears,

(best sound) Denafrips Venus II ($4k),

(2nd best) Terminator Plus (10k), and

(3rd) Ares II ($1k).

More expensive DAC is not the better sound because Denafrips company or any audio company don’t know what makes better sound. I hear same veils from $100k dcs DAC combo.

Alex/Wavetouch

We cannot judge dac with popular music , pop, rock etc ...

Because of all mixing and artefacts...

You must choose non amplified classical music...

I dont even use jazz for my test...😊

 

For sure i listen only classical and jazz....The best for testing is : piano, violin, human voices, cymbal, orchestra, chorus, organ , brass ensemble with cor and tuba... Big drum as turckisch drum and gong...

There is no "veil"  in classical recorded music... We test the "timbre" of the instrument, is it natural or not, realistic or not... We dont test the "veil" rendition... There is none...

 

 

I hear some major difference between 3 DACs. 1st, the listener needs to know the sound of the original music.

Steven Wilson - Perfect Life /// Mr. Beasley (unplugged)

These recordings are dubbings. Not live recording and there is no sound from speakers. All 3 DACs have thick veils and those veils will be much thicker with using power amps and speakers. This shows the veil sound started already from the source in hi-end audio.

To my ears,

(best sound) Denafrips Venus II ($4k),

(2nd best) Terminator Plus (10k), and

(3rd) Ares II ($1k).

More expensive DAC is not the better sound because Denafrips company or any audio company don’t know what makes better sound. I hear same veils from $100k dcs DAC combo.

Alex/Wavetouch

mahgister

There is no "veil" in classical recorded music... We test the "timbre" of the instrument, is it natural or not, realistic or not... We dont test the "veil" rendition... There is none...

I respectably disagree. Please point me any classical music live recording of audio equipment (not dubbed) that doesn’t have a veil. Alex/Wavetouch

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