Cable elevators

Maybe a survey of the group might be helpful:

- have you listened to cable risers?  Yes

- what was your impression?  waste of time and resources. 

- if you own them, are you on the first generation. Or, have you "upgraded" to more expensive items?    On my current  2 system (tubed and SS) and last system I am done chasing the marketing BS. 

- what is your investment in cable risers?  $250.00

- if you haven’t tried them, what is holding you back?   Tried and they did nothing!

As Danny pointed out in the video that bolong provided a link to and most didn't bother to watch, it's not costly in the least. He made his with some Tinker Toys his kids had. Two other friends who thought him crazy bought some after he demonstrated it to them. He said it took all of 5-10 seconds for them to hear the difference and they were on their cell phones ordering Tinker Toys from Amazon.

He also points out that not every cable is going to benefit from it and not every system is resolving enough to appreciate the differences. Why is everyone getting so emotional about something so inconsequential and instead, creating false narratives as if there's only costly and ineffective ways to doing it?

All the best,
Nonoise

                                          ^^^  YEP!  ^^^   

       The adherents of the Naysayer Church will never accept that there exists a multitude of variables, when an accurate simulacrum of performers and their performance in a particular venue, is the desire/goal.

        If their result differs from that of others, the aspects that they can't discern CERTAINLY MUST BE the product of the others' imagination.

        Of this they are certain: it CAN'T be THEIR system, room, or ears!

                                       Perish the thought!

- have you listened to cable risers?  Yes

- what was your impression?  waste of time and resources. 

             Tried and they did nothing!

                          Did I mention: VARIABLES?

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rodman99999

5,856 posts

07-26-2023 at 06:58am 

@invalid -

There is a measurable difference of lower capacitance when cable risers are used

@mc1969 -

I am on a concrete engineered slab, no carpet under my cables, engineered hardwood

     Makes sense, given that all of our cables exhibit the properties of an RLC circuit, the 'C' being capacitance.

     Capacitance changes, according to the dielectric, it's Dielectric Constant, and the amount of dielectric used.

     The Dielectric Constant of air = 1.    Wood can vary from just over 1 to 4, depending on grain direction and (greatly) on moisture content.

     I seriously doubt that engineered hardwood contains/retains any moisture, hence: no more change than lifting a cable into the air.

     Most carpeting consists of materials with horrible Constants.

     When your cable's lying on a material with a high Dielectric Constant; that's being added to that of the cable's insulation, changing the 'C' in the RLC, over whatever length.

     https://www.electrical4u.com/rlc-circuit/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/nursing-and-health-professions/dielectric-constant#:~:text=The%20dielectric%20constant%20ranges%20from,with%20moisture%20content%20and%20frequency.

They say peer pressure has a greater effect (pull) on kids than that of their parents. As we age most grow out of succumbing to peer pressure as we mature while others never seem to rid themselves of it. It's like battered wives syndrome. 

I don't find tribalism comforting and reassuring. My favorite Groucho Marx saying is "I refuse to join a club that would have me as a member."

I never understood the need or desire to be the one dictating the needs of others. Lots of insecurity lies in that. Those of the least or damaged faith yell the loudest.

"The beatings will continue until moral improves" is a satyric way of speaking the truth and hobbyists are not immune from it. We see those types all the time here. Some even come from other sites to ply their ways. Be wary of them.

All the best,
Nonoise