Headphones vs speakers….

No need to panic or over react on a metaphor...

My basic headphone system with the K340 cost me 700 bucks...My experience is limited compared to many here, but i never listen to anything speakers ( Tannoy, Quads, Magnepan etc ) or headphone ( even Stax) better than my actual K340 system..

How will cost a pair of speakers with or without subwoofers pair , able to give me around 20 hertz and high frequencies like Stax headphone ?

I called that a "fortune" ... Compared to my basic system... pick your number yourself , you are a great kid now.. and perhaps the son of Bill Gates... Then for you my "fortune" is a ridiculous metaphor for sure...

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By the way the "average agoner budget" is a preposterous concept...Nobody here is an average dude... We are all different...

And for most people 10,000 bucks is a "fortune"...

@mahgister and yet ...

you can certainly be critical of ME if you want but this isn’t about me. And it doesn’t help your point by accusing me of doing or being something whatever that might be.

This isn’t about you either. Is it? I meant for my question to be related to a statement you made. One that has little meaning unless you put numbers, relative values if you like, to lend credence to your statement that it would cost you "a fortune to buy speakers on the same league of frequencies response".

Are you an audience of one, or was your statement meant to be read by others? Potentially thousands of others? Don’t you think it’s critical to consider what those others think is meant by a fortune? At least in some average sense?

If you don’t think it’s important to provide numbers or a range then I vehemently disagree with your statement, metaphorically stated or otherwise.

BTW, an average is just a mathematical number with some error taken into consideration. I think I could do that math if I needed to. I don't see why it's so difficult for you to do the same, albeit with a large-ish margin of error. It''s not really that difficult, and by no means preposterous as you seem to believe. If you cannot do such a thing then doesn't that render your original statement even less meaningless than it already is?

For instance, where did your number $10,000 come from? I see that you threw that in as an edit to your comment. If that's supposed to be an answer to my question did you consider averages wrt products or consumer budgets? I really don't think this kind of mathematical exercise is difficult in the slightest.

In the context of my post it is possible for anyone with a brain to figure out what i spoke about...

It is not necessary to wrote a post which suppose that my post had no value because you cannot figure out yourself a simple metaphor...

You can post a polite question about what i means ...

one thing is sure "an average agoner budget" has no meaning...

a"fortune" compared to a low cost basic system based on a vintage headphone as mine , this metaphor has a meaning.. Sorry...

Now answer  my question : how cost a speakers able to deliver 20 hertz and higher frequencies on par with Omega Stax ?

A "fortune" compared to a vintage headophone... All this is already in my post..

Then my post has a meaning..

Next time be polite SPEAK TO ME not ABOUT ME to the crowd here and ask for precision...

@mahgister

And there you go again leveling personal attacks while avoiding the question. Are you trying to get me to do the same? I didn’t and I won’t, especially since you appear to have no interest in ever answering the question .

I made my point: I vehemently disagree with your statement! I absolutely can reproduce such frequency responses. I have done such a thing many times over given a very well selected and treated room and a wide variety of not expensive electrostatics. I have no idea why you claim to have experience to the contrary - you don’t even provide room dimensions!

@mahgister 

And please stop making this about you. I don't and never did want to have a discussion about you! People who read your statement in question may very well be new to the subject and trying to build their own systems, experiences and knowledge base. I strongly believe your statement misleads people like this and quite possibly a great many others. It misleads unless you provide some numbers to back up your opinion.

It would make no sense for me to write directly to you when you aren't the audience. If I had written directly to you then I would still want to set the record straight on this: I do not agree with you and I'd be very surprised to find that I'm in the minority. Depending on what you mean by a fortune. But you won't tell us what you mean for some reason.