Are your assertions supported by clinical trials, control groups, or pier review? If not, any claim to ' proof of efficacy ' OR lack of long term consequences is specious.
The "Very Best Record Cleaning Formulation"
The "Very Best Record Cleaning Formulation"
I am providing this formulation for all who are interested in the very best, and can be proven and demonstrated to be the "Very Best". It can easily be made from available ingredients. On the surface, it appears to be very simple. However, it is based on extensive complex chemistry along with precise mathematical calculations and verifiable data.
You may use it with absolute confidence and be truly assured that it is beyond doubt the "Very Best". You may use it for your personal needs. Or, archival entities may use it for their purposes with confidence. Or, you may choose to start an enterprise that makes and packages quantities as either a "ready-to-use" or a "Semi-concentrated" version for sale and distribution knowing that nothing better exists. You have my blessings and encouragement with one condition. And, that is, that the pricing represents a "fair margin", and, not an obscene gouging, typical for such products.
Initially, I had prepared a presentation that briefly introduced myself, and provided the thought processes, design parameters, and the necessary basics of chemistry, physics, and mathematics to assure you and allow you to be absolutely confident in this formulation. I made a considerable effort to keep it as simple, but, also as thorough enough to achieve this confidence. However, that presentation entailed 5,239 words, typical of such a requirement, however, unacceptable in length by this website forum.
I have no option other than to offer the formulation as a 100% parts by weight version suitable to produce 1 Kilogram of the cleaner, and, invite you to question me about any aspect of the formulation.
Professionally, I am a Chemist, more specifically a Polyurethane Chemist. I have a Doctorate in Chemistry as well as two other Doctorates and a M.B.A.. I held prominent positions in significant corporations before being encouraged to start our (wife and I) manufacturing facility servicing those I previously worked for. We started, owned, and fully operated this business. We eventually obtained 85+% Market Share in our sector in Medical, Automotive, Sporting Goods, and Footwear areas before retirement.
The Audio Industry is extremely technical and many brilliant minds have contributed their talents over the decades in order that we may enjoy music today as we choose. Like many other technical industries, those of lesser minds and values invade the arena with their "magical" inspired revelations and offer their "magical" ingredients and items to all at extremely high prices. They promise that if only we are willing to part with our money - they can provide these items to you that make your audio system sound as if the orchestra, or vocalist, is in your room with you. And, after all, "magical items" must be expensive, otherwise, they would not be "magical".
This disturbs me enormously, and, it is for such reasons, I feel compelled to provide realistic and truthful information that conforms to basic Engineering, Chemistry, Physics, and Mathematical Principals in those areas with which I am very knowledgeable and familiar.
"Ultimate Record Cleaner Solution"
Ingredient Amount by Weight (Grams)
Distilled Water 779.962
Ethyl Alcohol 220.000
Tergitol 15-S-7 (Dow Chemical) 0.038 (Approx. = 2 Drops)
1,000.000
Important and/or Relevant Criteria
1.) Distilled Water ONLY. Do not use deionized, tap, rain, or spring water. Distilled Water is readily available in most grocery stores. Check labeling to be certain that it is distilled and not deionized. The pricing is comparable.
2.) Ethanol must be purchased at a "Liquor Store" or a "Liquor Control Board" that is suitable for human consumption, and the appropriate taxes must be paid. This assures that the alcohol consists of only Ethyl Alcohol and water. You need to purchase the 95+% version, also known as 180+ Proof. NOTHING ELSE is acceptable. (100% Ethyl Alcohol is not available under "normal" circumstances). Denatured alcohol from a Hardware Store or elsewhere is PROHIBITED, as well as ANY other alcohols.
3.) Tergitol 15-S-7 is made by Dow and is available on the internet in small quantities from Laboratory Supply Houses such as Fisher and Advance, etc.. I have no affiliations with either Dow Chemical, or Fisher, or Advance. You MUST use Tergitol 15-S-7 ONLY. No other Tergitol product is acceptable for this designed formula, and you need to acquire the undiluted form only.
4.) The above cleaner formula will result in a non-foaming (VLF) Surfactant Formulation that exhibits the following:
Surface Tension of 28.5 dynes/centimeter @ 20 C. (68.0 F.)
Surface Tension of 28.2 dynes/centimeter @ 25 C. (77.0 F.)
5.). A Surface Tension of 28.5 dynes/centimeter is Remarkable and will properly clean records of all organic soilings, and all oily substances, as well as very significant amounts of inorganic soilings. This available Surface Tension coupled with the Azeotropic Characteristics of very rapid evaporation and spotless drying occur because of the selection of Ethyl Alcohol and the very specific concentration determined as 22.00% p.b.w., further improves the products abilities. The "Ease-of-Use" and "Spot-Free" results are to be accepted.
6.). Be aware that an "ideal temperature of use" also exists for this formulation. And, that reasonable temperature is 40 C. (104.0 F.). Further increases in temperature offers no improvement, therefore, confirming the proper use of the term "ideal". I mention this not because of of any substantial improvement, but, only to be aware of its’ existence. And, if you have a choice to utilize a room that is warmer than another, select the warmer room closer to 104.0 F. There is no need to elevate the temperature of the records or the materials. Simply be aware that 104.0 F. Is ideal.
If interest is expressed in this submission, I am willing to provide additional submissions regarding other materials, and, other areas of interest. Such as"Best Contact Substance", "Best lubricants for turntables", " Better Dampening Materials" for turntables and tonearms, and, most significantly, "Best" material for "Turntable Platter/Vinyl Record Interface" usually called "Record Mats". The last item will certainly disturb many individuals and anger many suppliers.
Whatever I may contribute is substantiated by Science and Testing, and Verifiable. Science has no Opinions. Opinions in these matters are best reserved for those who rely on their imagination and wishful thinking.
Also, I have no vested interests in this Industry. Simply possess some scientific knowledge that also relates to some aspects of the Audio Area, and I am willing to share that information if requested!
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cleeds, Now I am a bit confused. Above, you wrote, "As I mentioned @lewm , I use a Klaudio US cleaner and have a conventional OG Nitty-Gritty. I don’t find that either cleaner requires alcohol to remove common contaminants." Here you are saying you do use a solution with a water base (e.g., the VPI RCM concoction, whatever that may be) with your NG. If so, we are in accord. My earlier point was that US RCMs don't or certainly may not require anything but water in the tank because of the very nature of how US works. Whereas, I mentioned I do use a water plus alcohol plus nonionic detergent solution with my VPI HW17. So, no problem. |
I apologize I have been away for a few days and was unable to post. Also, My new computer appears to be very problematic, and it is driving me crazy. I noticed that this is your very first post - and what a post it is (although you may not understand the significance that I am relating to). Noting the "unnecessary back and forth", and asking for answers to what would normally appear to be simple and straightforward matters. Not realizing that my answers to you will rupture the brain vessels of several of the contributors to this Forum. Nevertheless, you can obtain Tergitol 15-S-7 (now a Dow Chemical Product) on the internet from: a.) "The Lab Depot", or, b.) "Advance Scientific & Chemical", or, by contacting (by phone) a local Dow Representative or Dow Chemical Distributor. There are other internet choices, but you will need to do your own searches. Phoning a Dow Representative or Distributor may be very productive, however, unfortunately it has a lot to do with where you reside. Remember when speaking to any of these individuals to be truthful and honest with regard to your intentions, and your interest in the product. You may be pleasantly surprised, or, not! The answer to your second question is that YES it can be used in an Ultrasonic Cleaning device, but, recall your times in the bath may only be one-tenth of a "normal" time period, and that no rinsing (especially with distilled or deionized water is required or recommended. It is self-defeating in many respects. If you feel compelled the "rinse" then rinse only with the formulation that is presented. Before I say more, I would ask of you to first respond if you already have an Ultrasonic Cleaning device or not? Get back to me about this, and it can be further discussed. This is where I already sense that other contributors minds are "blowing up" (yes, pun intended). You may understand at some point as to my referrals, and, if and when you do, you can then explain it to me. Recall, my "Very best Record Cleaning Formulation" is just that, and it is to be "an ease of use" product as well. Good Luck, and keep in touch! Wizzzard |
You can say what you wish, but the law (29 CFR 1910.106) is very specific as to what is classified as flammable - NFPA_30_Fact_Sheet_2021.ashx. And, in larger volumes, in small spaces, flammable vapors can be build up - NFPA Journal - Safe Distilling, Mar Apr 2018. Yes, as you have implied the flame speed and heat of combustion of water alcohol solutions are low, but the minimum ignition energy is well within the range of a 120V electrical contact. But are you familiar with what is now available for ultrasonic tanks - Amazon.com: VEVOR Ultrasonic Vinyl Record Cleaner 6L 40kHz Vinyl Ultrasonic Cleaning Machine Knob Control Record Ultrasonic Cleaner 4 Records Vinyl Sonic Cleaner Stainless Steel Tank w/Mechanical Heater & Timer : Industrial & Scientific. Do you think these low-cost PRC manufactured UT tanks are UL listed? You have no idea of people’s domestic use situation. Some people put these low-cost UT tanks in closets or small bathrooms (w/o venting) because they are so noisy. I have education in fire science and I have firefighting training from when I was in the Navy, and I would not make any general recommendation for use of any fluid in larger quantities such as in a UT tank that the law classifies as flammable, without a whole lot of caveats, and I suspect that the NFPA would not even think that was safe. But that is me, and of course you and anyone reading is free to take exception. And with this being said, I have nothing else to say. |
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