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Learning about crossovers helped convert me from atheist to a believer in God

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I have been an atheist for 50 years.  Recently I became a believer.  One factor that helped tip the scales is the “fine tuned universe” argument - the idea that the physics constants, e.g. the mass of an electron, are so finely “selected” that if they weren’t very close to what they are, life wouldn’t exist.  This is an argument for a creator.  The best counter argument seems to be that there are an infinite number of universes and we got lucky.  

When I got into audio, and started learning about crossovers, I was ASTOUNDED at how well the pieces fit together.  Octaves are exact doubles of frequency.  3dB describes so many seemingly unrelated phenomena.  But the one that really got me was the magic of capacitors and inductors.  They share no parts, other than wires sticking out at each end (usually), one acts due to voltage, one acts due to electromagnetism, one resists AC, one resists DC.  And yet, somehow, they are mirror images of each other, using almost exactly the same equations, behaving perfectly orthogonal to each other, even to the extent of how powerfully they perform their function (3dB again).  How is this possible?  Could this have happened due to random chance?  I smell a creator.  

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mahgister
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Even if there exist an infinity of different universes they are all finite each one...

What make me believe in God or in the Source, is the existence of an information/formation field which throw his shadow in the mind of any intelligent being in any universe  : the prime numbers distribution...This is an absolute fact as the circle is an absolute TRANSCENDANT FACT...

Now listen this music of the primes translated by Alain Connes ( one of the great living mathematician) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBArTv71Edk

 

The most complex object in the universe is not a material object but a symbolic object : the prime numbers series which include the universal knowledge in it and the cosmic memory...

 

Those who think that randomness can explain the universe are deluded... Randomness is a relatively constrained phenomena in mathematics...It cannot be defined absolutely by itself...

Think about music which is neither order nor disorder but informed meaning for a consciousness about another consciousness...

Agnosticism i undertand that philosophical position for sure ... But atheism belief is for the weak minds sorry...

There is no need for a proof concerning evidence... In the same way to perceive an evidence we must open the eyes or look in the right direction... In the same way for the mind eye the Source is an evidence at least in number theory if you dont look in nature...

As said a Romanian thinker , Cioran, a non beliver, an agnostic who love reading mystics all his life , one of the best french writer by the way , i paraphrase from my memory : Bach is the best proof of God if there is a God and God need more Bach than Bach ever needed God ...

 

By the way the OP is right about his thinking ... I studied acoustic to tune my room , and in a larger context i thought about sounds ... It is evident that randomness cannot explain sounds qualities of a source and their direct perception...

 

antigrunge2
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In science one differentiates between in- and deductive hypotheses. Hopefully I am  not insulting anybody in assigning this to the former and perceiving some distance to Thomas of Aquinas‘ attempted proof.

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The greatest American thinker , Charles Sanders Peirce , distinguished , from inductive and deductive reasonning , abductive or retroductive reasonning... Science after him keep this third form of reasonning...

This implies a circle , or a spiralling set of hypothesis at the end encompassing everything...Peirce created semiotics , the science of signs with this abductive idea , and it takes three steps in this science to encompass the infinity...The Percean triads..

We must read Aquinas 5 proofs of the existence of God all 5 TOGETHER in this Percean abductive context...

  1. the argument from "first mover";
  2. the argument from universal causation;
  3. the argument from contingency;
  4. the argument from degree;
  5. the argument from final cause or ends ("teleological argument").

But at the end the Source being an evidence only need the mind eye directed on the right direction at the right time...

I will add to Aquinas 5 ways my sixth way : the absoluteness of number theory and the Nicolas of Cuses proof of the absolute infinity , before Cantor , which inspired Cantor to create the first universal mathematical theory...

In science one differentiates between in- and deductive hypotheses. Hopefully I am not insulting anybody in assigning this to the former and perceiving some distance to Thomas of Aquinas‘ attempted proof.

 

Mystics of all religions (not theologians there is a BIG difference here )  deliver the most bright mind and intelligence possible among humans with great mathematicians...Atheist are anything but not really deep minds... Sorry...
 
 

 

 

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