Who has the Sickness, the Phile or the Non-phile?


So often I find myself resenting the fact that there are only so many hours to listen to HiFi and I think of those that don't hold this resentment.

I used to think anyone who wasn't obsessive simply lacked exposure, but even though I have introduced many, I have discovered no takers.

At audiophile club meeting it seems to me that the attendees are mostly gear-heads and posers; they say "Ooo & Ahhhh" to anything presented and you can see 1 or 2, maybe 3 in the seats nonchalantly looking over in the direction of the ooo-ers and Ahhh-ers; those few get it. And before anyone is defensive because they know, lashes out that I'm this or that....I don't care. These are obviously my opinions and I'm looking for the opinions of others On The  Question  At  Hand  and not whether or not I am a deluded self important snob.

So, if it is not a lack of exposure, is it a lack of ability?

Surely we are all different, short, tall, smart, obtuse, near sighted, far sighted. Are the ears and or the brains of an audiophile just wired differently than others? Can non audiophiles just not hear what we hear?

Was it childhood exposure that caused this difference in wiring? My father had Altec Voice of the Theater horns and the accompanying gear. Was that it, being exposed to HIFi during brain development? My daughter gets it and boy was she pissed when I sold my VPI TT. I never got along with my father, but was he responsible for my affliction by introducing me to superior sound as an infant?

And, who are the sick ones, the philes or the non-philes?

 

TD

128x128tonydennison

I perfectly understand you...

But you just touched a very sensible matter...

A matter very difficult to explain and debate without vexing someone...

Music is not like the color taste for the room paint...

our taste of colors are generally more static and will not change much... Our interpretation of colors is also revelatory in some test...

 

But music express the consciousness history of humanity....The word "taste" here does not implicate the same meaning content as in car choices or colors...

The way we can enter in this consciousness history imply an "education" a formal one or not...

Then the main difference in music for me is not between genres and styles , mainly between classical music being it Josquin Des prez or Scriabin taste, nor Jazz being it New Orleans or Hard bop or free jazz etc , no more between Japan or India or Persia or Brazilian music or turkisch one.... Pygmies chant or Yoruba drummings...

All this is not industrially fabricated music, but music created in a TRADITION , cultural and musical tradition...

Fabricated music display different levels of "fabrication" because there is great musician even in fabricated music...I even appreciate some for few minutes... 😊 But generally i go away from any "fabricated music" , i will not gave exemple here, because it is too complicated and debatable because there is genius musician even in "fabricated music" and there is levels of " fabrication" ...My point is not about judging people ...

My point is about the necessity to educate our spontaneous tastes in something: an experience in a journey that will reflect from humanity consciousness our own consciousness for ourself in our own personal history...

Music is way more than a "thirst" that must be satisfied...Or a Hunger for beautiful sounds...

it is a meditation even for those who dont meditate...

We can meditate in silence or with music... We can observe and feel how music change our body physiology... And our mind set...How music open the door of consciousness more smoothly than "drugs" ...

We can ask ourself why pigmies choral music so much moved us and why Bruckner symphonies has so much "cinematic" content, how Jazz can relax us so much because of his freedom invitation, why is chinese music so poetical near nature and why ragas are so meaningful for the soul ?

Understanding that we begin to think that all mankind is one and only ONE...There is no more tastes here and no more rejection... Save that it is difficult at some point to enjoy for a long time  more than a song catched in the radio of fabricated music even with a genius singer and musician behind... I dont put folk music and poetry in "fabricated" music for sure...

I apologize if i irritate someone here, but at the end there is not much taste in music , only preferences in listening time duration ... Did i love much Scriabin than pygmies choral chants or the reverse ? Not at all.... These two different world come from the human soul directly...

 

I’m an almost-exclusively-classical-music listener. Even if I knew any other audiophiles or audiophile clubs, their various musical tastes would undoubtedly send me reeling out of the room in disgust. I’ve learned long ago that whatever you might recommend to others, they aren’t likely to hear or perceive anything the way you do. And though I live with somebody I dearly love, I wouldn’t dream of subjecting her to my very exclusive taste in music...which is why I’ve put together the best possible headphone-only system I can barely afford. When she fires-up some crappy old pop tunes on YouTube, I just grin and bear it, and wait till she gets it out of her system. That’s what love will do. She has an idea of the many thousands of dollars I’ve spent on my headphone rig...and yet has never had the slightest desire to have a listen.

So...I don’t know if being an audiophile is a "disease" or not, but it seem to be a fairly solitary pursuit these days. Anyway, I’m happy with it and need no validation from others.

@bal-de-vis 

 

Nice response. I came very close to going the head-fi route myself for identicle reasons.

 

T

@bal-de-vis 

Welcome to the forum. Can you post a pic of your headphone rig on your virtual system page? Sounds like a nice one. Thanks

All this is not industrially fabricated music, but music created in a TRADITION , cultural and musical tradition...

Right now my favorite genre of music IS industrially fabricated in the TRADITION of the tribes of Africa mostly in the Zulu language... Amapiano music. Thankfully I can get mixes of it on Mixcloud, hit play, and be taken on a journey of rhythm, heart, spirit, it is magical. Here is a mix, enjoy:

https://www.mixcloud.com/DJRobbiez/soul-ii-soul-vol25/

 

@milo0812

The above set was mixed by a woman, see:

I have the pleasure and honour to introduce you to DJ Jean Karungi, the first female DJ in this series. Jean is an Ugandan Based DJ who started mixing professionally in 2021. Since this time she has played in bars and at events. A lover of music in all its forms but particularly drawn to amapiano, afro house and EDM. Her sets are always a reflection of her eclectic taste and an assured vibe for a good time.