What is turntable “liveliness”.
I have listened to turntables for sixty years. I bought my first high end TT about thirty years… it was revelatory. I do not swap tables often. I do a huge amount of research and then stay with one for fifteen years or so. My most recent upgrade was from a VPI Aries (heavy mass) to a Linn LP12 (light weight, sprung)…very nearly the very top level. Could we please not turn this into a religious thing about Linn… mine is an outstanding TT which compares favorably with any other $45K analog leg (TT, cartridge, and Phonostage)
The term lively comes up in descriptions. One of the differences in character I noticed between the VPI and Linn… which I thought might be considered liveliness was to me a bit of what I perceived as the images very slightly jumping around… the kind of thing you would think of when you see films of “The Flash” maybe vibrating in place. While I found this gave me the feeling of the notes wanting to jump out at me, I found it a bit disconcerting. I attributed it to a relatively light weight rig, that is really good at rejecting low frequency vibrations (it is a sprung table… known to be lively sounding) up to a relatively high frequency… but beyond that not. Something a really heavy rig would not be effected by.
To test my theory, I had a Silent Running Ohio Class vibration platform constructed for my turntable. The image smear, as I called it disappeared. There is no smear and it has great solidity.
Is this attribute “liveliness”?
Dear @ossicle2brain : " between the imperfections of vinyl and the cutting etc the noise or sound of almost any decent turntable is not heard when the music is playing " Well, here I disagree a " little ": first because you can't aisle any TT ( sound devepoved by ) and second because it depends not only by caRTRIDGE/TONEARM BUT THE ROOM/SYSTEM QUALITY resolution LEVELS.
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I had a Lynn also.....it sounded airy and dimensional, weak bass in my system but is in need of constant adjustment. You have to hear the component in your house on your equipment to make an informed value judgement. Even the table the turntable sits on and the floor that the table sits on makes a great difference. |
I had a Lynn also.....it sounded airy and dimensional, weak bass in my system but was in need of constant adjustment. You have to hear the component in your house on your equipment to make an informed value judgement. Even the table the turntable sits on and the floor that the table sits on makes a great difference. |
You read me wrong ...😊 I just said that cheap turntable with no acoustic room and cd were not so far apart... I disliked the first cd , they were not good but at least they did not pop at first listening and were more convenient and it was my only cheap way into music anyway and all classical goes into cd release more than vinyl release with the passing years...The return of vinyl is mostly a pop music phenomenon...I listened mostly classical almost exclusively... There was more classical in cd than in vinyl release in no time... i did not have money for good turntable anyway and a good acoustic was completely out of my understanding at the times...As it is even today for most people in audio...😊
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But it seems you’re saying that one required a good acoustic, by which I assume you mean a good listening room, to divine the difference between early RBCDs and vinyl. In my opinion there’s no listening space bad enough to obscure the vast gulf between them. Classical music was most mutilated on RBCD, as opposed to other genres. Massed brass or string passages sounding like the crumpling of cellophane. |
