Jazz for aficionados
An awesome video breaking down the tenor sax duel between Soony Rollins and Sonny Stitt on the song The Eternal Triangle off of Dizzy Gillespie’s Sonny Side Up album. Hey @stuartk have youbeen alble to find a top level vinyl LP of it? (1) Reaction: Who won the tenor battle on The Eternal Triangle? - YouTube A shout out @frogman Where have you been?...I would like to hear from you about this topic or anything at all for that matter.... |
Three geniuses and more... Thanks my friend ... I dont know Frank Morgan , i will listen surely... These days i listen very much a big box album of Desmond, i appreciate his minimalistic "rolling"... 😊
I just come back from my bicycle...😊
i will correct you here if i may to precise my thinking... It is "rolling" that the africaqn master said not swinging... The diffrence is when you swing , there is a repeat beat most of the times that not vary continuously imposed by the melody in some case... When its "roll" the reference is not only to the balancing movement of the player body, but to his ability to improvise a CONTINUOUSLY transformative rythm who do not swing but who rolls one beat into another new one without end... It is why "rolling" expression can apply even to classical pianist interpretation as well as free jazz...There is no "swing" in Scriabin , or in a Persian master of tanbur, but as said the African master of african music there can be a "rolling" or not, if the pianist can integrate spontaneously and without discontibnuities , the melody, the rythm , the harmony in one complex "roll" through his hands and body ... If the African master had means swingibng , i will had never remember this anecdote... I was stunned by the African master understanding as was the American jazz musician who learn from him... I dont remember who it was i read that decades ago... |
Frogman wrote to me when i came back here ... But i never read another post of him here for long... We need him... I hope that he is not ill... I guess he is not young as i am no more too...
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Thanks @mahgister for defining roll. Have you watched the "duel of the sonny's"? I know you like classical music and here is a reply to the "duel of the sonny's" from another classical student/listener...
@bobpremecz5429One of the things to remember, Stitt was 33 at the time of this recording while Rollins was only 27 giving the young Turk even more incentive to bring his "A" game. What enthusiasm presenting this classic breakdown of the tenor battle on the tune "Eternal Triangle". You helped me see how both had their own ways of interpreting the changes and made clear the use of their "go to" licks and tricks. As one who had classic training, seeing this helped me recognize how even classical composers shared/borrowed some of the ideas these two giants set down for all to hear, appreciate and even analyze. Tractor noises, who cares when you end up with what you posted. |
Yes i remember this album between Stitt and Rollins ... I loved it.... You remind me to listen to it anew... The only reason i did not listen to it for a long time is the limit of my dac bank music files...It does not contains all my musical files but only a fraction , less than 1/2 giga byte... I use this dac bank because i am off the grid with my battery dac and the sound quality is better than when i was using my computer memory as bank...
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