I don’t know bemused if I totally agree. I have used the Nordost products, and the Puron’s and Telos items are more effective and cheaper. However, as you mentioned they may be based on the same principle. Have you compared them?
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Telos Mini Quantum Resonator (MQR) & Puron Filter together
So, I have been a big proponent of the Puron Filters, they have been an awesome addition to my system. I now have a total of 10 of them plugged into my 3 different dedicated lines. Highly recommended!
Recently, I have tried the new Telos Mini Quantum Resonator (MQR). It is close to the physical size of the Puron Filter and also just plugs into the wall, but it has a different look. Kinda nice looking unit. I now have purchased 2 of them.
I’ll cut to the sound quality comparison. While the Puron expands the soundstage the Telos MQR deepens the image. It adds a heft to the music. More meat on the bones as they say. But too many Telos’s (MQR) though and the soundstage gets hardened. Whereas additional Puron’s is a good thing.
Plugging the Telos (MQR as the Puron) into my Niagara power conditioners is still not a good thing. They benefit the most being plugged into the wall outlet that the conditioners are plugged into.
Now a surprising location for the Telos (MQR) was into the power strip in another room that powers my computer equipment. i.e., Modem, EtherRegen, After Dark Clock and power supply. At this location, my streaming from Qobuz improved in overall sound quality. I’m thinking because in this power strip there are more digital nasties that this device goes after.
So, both units together do provide an added synergy. It is hard to use one without the other. I now have one Telos (MQR) in my main system dedicated circuit and another with my computer equipment.
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I dont know about Telos technology, but what they do for both audio and video differ from Nordost according to my experience. And I have plenty of every Nordost QRT product, including the new QWave and QSine, and Telos over several years. Also comparing Telos to Add Powr (run by the man behind the Nordost QRT products), they are very different. But IMO they compliment each other very nice. To others who experiment with one plug in the wall next to the outlet for your conditioner, why not add a power strip and add several and dfferent power plugs. If you have space and funds for it of course. And, if you are not quite happy with a product in your stereo, before you sell it or return it, try it on your ac line for your refrigerator or freezer. I have found that reducing amount of noise going back to meter board from these devices helps a lot, even with dedicated ac lines for stereo. |
@bemused , I have been a pretty hard core enthusiast in more than 20 yrs and have far more tweaks and power conditioning gear that could be considered as "normal". For example, I have more power conditioning gear on my regrigerator or my freezer than other entusiasts have in a large stereo system. So yes, it makes a huge difference. Actually, I have tweaked my systems so heavily that it is easier for me to hear upgrades I do on other ac lines, like the ones for refrigerator, freezer, ventilation etc. I don’t say that should be normal, but that is how it is in my house, even with dedicated lines, upgraded fuses in my meter board etc. @justubes2, I find the Nordost QWave to be stronger than the Qv2, it is also supposed to work not only in lower bass region as the Qv2, but also upper bass. The QSine is kind of invisible, but just makes everything more transparent, also in higher frequencies, gives more air and bigger soundstage. It is easy also to see with video, the picture gets crystal clear. I find it to be better and more neutral than Qk1. It can remind a little of ADD Powr, but still they are different, hard to explain... IMO, both QWave and QSine do not limit dynamics at all. I have never tried Purons. |
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