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I'm considering upgrading a generic 5 meter USB from pc to DAC.   Opinions please on DH Labs Mirage vs Transparent Audio.  Has anyone had an opportunity to compare  in a quality system?

savant19970

I suggest some believers in magic here do a little reading on human objectivity, or lack there-of.   More productive than snide insulting remarks.  Human senses are not and never have been objective. This is why first person witness is the lowest form of legal evidence. We hear and see what we want to see.  

Look at dates of publications. USB mode ONE is not Mode TWO.  DAC's from 2013 are not the same as even the cheapest today. Much has been learned, much has been applied.  Clocking WAS a problem as it was host based. It is not now.  NOPE, GONE.  Noise injected by ground, shield or 5V can now be totally eliminated. Cheap. 

I do not sell either cheap or expensive cables. I am not trying to defend my ego for being scammed.  I am not a total measurement is all. I do listen. But I also understand how these transfer layers work and only which to help those who do not have the technical background. They don't teach digital communications in medical or business school.  Seems they no longer teach logical thinking and arguments either. 

 

 

tvrgeek

I suggest some believers in magic here do a little reading on human objectivity ...

Perhaps you should take your own advice, because you seem to be one of the greatest believers in magic on all of A’gon. You find it here and there and yonder, fortified with pixie dust and measurementalism and seasoned with snake oil. It has the ability to remap your brain, the way you tell it.

Our brain lies. Always.

measurementalism

@cleeds Not sure if that’s a word, but I like it!!!  Fitting that it contains the word “mental” in it and also makes it sound like the cult that it really is — killing two birds.  Hey, “ain’t” wasn’t initially in the dictionary either until it became part of our vernacular, and I plan to do my part to eventually get your word in there too!

More productive than snide insulting remarks.

As opposed to repeated, casually insulting remarks? A distinction without a difference, I'd wager.

All the best,
Nonoise

 

@tvrgeek I think you need to take some Xanax. Clocking absolutely is still an issue. I also made full disclosure on the dates of the information I compiled, oh and was not compiled for you you arrogant azz. You must need a ladder to get on that high horse. You sure make it hard for people to respect you or even want to read your opinions on anything. Truly sad your ego gets' in the way of what should be enjoyable.

Yet in other publications (2016) they find the articles I sited as relevant.

https://www.electronicdesign.com/technologies/embedded/article/21801786/achieving-bitperfect-usb-audio

Also USB Protocols were written in the 1990’s, so really little has changed in the protocols. Changes have been in clocking and hardware, no?

Regardless I think the credentials and experience of the authors EDN outweigh you alleged expertise. JUNE 27, 2012
BY HENK MULLER, PRINCIPAL TECHNOLOGIST XMOS LTD.

As a longtime audio DIYer I can sympathize with audio enthusiasts who don’t wish to have their fun spoiled by the likes of such objectivist methods as hardcore engineering measurements and double blind testing (DBT). But audio subjectivists should realize that ignoring the objectivist “reality” side of audio means never being able to determine an objective “better” or “best” and forever drifting from one product to another in search of the “holy grail.”

Me, I’d rather spend my time enjoying listening to music.

https://www.edn.com/audio-subjectivist-vs-objectivist-debate-2/

From USB.org.

https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/audio10.pdf