any current integrated amps in market have great dacs?


I know built in dacs have historically have been a bit of an afterthought, currently looking at the Rotel Michi X3 series 2 as it has a nice chip set

any other integrated amps around the same price point  with a good dac built in?

 

 

 

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The new Peachtree Carina is excellent for the $$ and they have a trade up program...If you can find a used Aavik U-150 for under 10K , Buy it.....best dac and MC phono stage Steve Huff ever heard in an integrated.....I own one 20K new...it's better than their new gear DAC and phono stage wise in MHO .

Anybody have the chance to compare McIntosh’s DAC1 to its DAC2? The MA-5300 integrated ships only with the earlier model & requires a $1000 dealer-only upgrade to replace it with the DAC2.

That’s frustrating. I see no reason why this upgrade couldn’t be done at the factory when the unit is ordered.  Visiting the Mac dealer closest to me would require getting on a plane; and two-way shipping of even the relatively light MA-5300 would run $800-1000. You can buy a pretty nifty little late model HiFi Rose DAC/streamer that offers a much better interface for that kind of money.

It baffles me why the company won't allow users to buy its mid-priced integrateds with the better DAC pre-installed, especially since many live in states that don’t have dealerships. But my threshold question is simpler: Is the difference between the two DACs significant enough to justify a nearly $2000 upgrade?

 

@tiagocarneiro I have the Aavik U-280. By far one of the best integrated amps I’ve owned. The built-in dac is phenomenal. I compared it to the Denafrips Terminator 2 dac which I owned when I was auditioning the Aavik. No comparison, the Aavik dac was substantially better than the Denafrips. I also compared it to T+A Dac200 and it was equally good. In fact, the Aavik had better bass control than the T+A.

I also auditioned the U-150, and preferred the U-280. Of course, the 150 has a world class phono but other than that I preferred the 280 in my system. I bet the 580 is even better.

@arafiq i had the U-180 and loved it. When I had the chance to upgrade, I did it and zero regrets. Honestly, and after a bunch of bought gear through the time, probably this is the best DAC+Amp I had. I appreciate more the music instead of the gear. This is a “clichet” but in my case suits perfectly !

Never tried the U-150 but an authorized dealer (that have all gear available, New, Demo, and Used) told me that the U-180 is sonically better than the U-150 (loosing the Phono stage - that I don’t use), and the U-280  a big step above the U-180, putting the U-580 in a even higher league. This lead me to buy the I-580 and D-580, upgrading form the U-180. 
I advise anyone to audition the Aavik gear with an open mind and you will very fast be surprised. 
Not cheap but very very good 👍🏼