DAC's from the past, are any of them really worth much today?


I was thinking of buying a new DAC, the choices are many, but some of the lowest price DAC’s are to be had from yesteryear. For example, i took home an Esoteric D05 yesterday and while I have not been able to hook it up to my Esoteric player, due to no suitable connector cable, I was wondering if any of the better DAC’s from years back are really worth having? The example I have in for audition, while close to SOTA back about 13+ years ago, has no USB connection! To that, it has had years of usage, and appears pristine although I am unsure as to what can fail in a DAC? Obviously no warranty, yet a price point that is somewhat attractive, particularly for the build quality.

 

The biggest issue seems to be no USB connection to the upstream gear, but also perhaps the difference in price between a DAC like this, and a more modern DAC with better DAC chips/USB etc.,would simply make this one not a great deal. Thoughts?

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DACs have come really far and really fast of late.  While you may be able to find a jewel from yesteryear from the likes of Wadia, etc., why, when there are so many excellent options out there today at relatively very reasonable prices with USB inputs and warranties?  I don’t see it, and I think you’ve answered your own question already.

There has been a lot of progress in making DACs sound much better in the last ten or fifteen years. Like all audiophile gear, really high end gear stays relevant much longer than the lower level stuff.

Given the equipment you own, you should probably be looking at contemporary equipment (say less than 6 years old). Like all things, in general, the better quality the better it will sound as long as you buy one in the “sound camp” you are in… if you are a natural / musical camp you don’t want to buy a Benchmark, if you are in the details means everything, then you don’t want to buy Audio Research. You want natural presentation and great detail, then think Berkeley Reference Alpha.

I can’t think of why anyone interested in high end audio would want to have anything to do with USB. It was brought on board because of the PC. No high end system should have a computer in the loop… hence no use for it.

Ric Schultz's original DACs were quite good and for the pittance one pays for one today, they are a steal.  I paid $100 for one used and it would easily compete with a $700-1,000 DAC today.

I think the first ones were simply DAC 1 and DAC 2.

I agree that some very good modern dacs are available for under $1k, but I totally disagree that the modern dacs are necessarily better than the best dacs of the past. The Naim 555 and CDS3, the Vekian, Wadia, Zanden were incredible. As far as “new technology”, many of the hot dacs today are using the oldest dac technology- resistor ladder and old R2R chips. That said, buying older digital products may not be a good idea from a repairability standpoint. I know Naim supports its old products, but good luck with much else. And anything with a transport is very risky as well.