Two questions to make you mad.


#1 Why is it that the worlds most sophisticated and accurate machine the (ASML) TWINSCAN NXE:3600D doesn’t use special AC or signal cables to make 3nm semiconductors. Audiophiles need special cables for accuracy?

#2 Why is it that you can always tell when a piano is playing live, or even an electric guitar is playing live 2 houses away directly into an amp through walls and windows?

In the 1960s Electro Voice announced that their speakers could reproduce exactly accurate sounds, many believed them.

We are fooling ourselves, our hobby is full of lies and we can’t even face facts.

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@mijostyn 

One of the reasons I'm not a big cable guy is because good equipment should have a good power supply, and audio equipment uses DC at low voltages so I've never understood pre transformer and pre voltage regulation in the last 6 feet before the AC connection. I've got about 32k$ in power components alone not counting AC cables so I believe in clean power. I started in live sound and there are often power problems even in bigger venues, to fix power problems you need to fix or isolate the main transformers which is always expensive. I worked at a church that put in a big sound system and really did it right they spent money on isolated power transformers for the sound system, it was an analog system with about 200 channels for the orchestra. It was easy to mix but there was always more to do on every mix meaning it was so quiet that you could obsess about EQing the 2nd viola or French horn section and not ever get the mix you wanted. It's just like when we went to HD video in a the film industry when we stoped using film all of a sudden the makeup people were really extra worried about tiny little makeup details on the actors that were never seen on film cameras in the past. A blacker background is not always a good idea, makeup is a filter used in Hollywood to make homely people into beautiful movie stars. 

#1  No logical comparison or correlation between the ASML system operation and home audio.  There will be a long list of installation requirements from ASML that must be met to achieve proper performance, cable being a minor factor. Implying that ASML does not care about cable or AC quality to create a completely bogus  controversy is silly. 

#2 Apples to oranges premise that makes no sense. 

 

@texbychoice 

Nearly all electronics (not electrical) changes AC to DC. After the power is changed to DC the AC part is done, yes the transformer, rectifier and down powering circuits are important but any audiophile grade AC to DC conversion is easily done the the filtering is applied to the DC circuit. 
 

the ASML doesn’t work on raw AC it works on DC and those engineers don’t feel that it’s important to use very expensive boutique AC cables with things like insulation bias and other such nonsense. If these AC cables did make the usable signal more accurate don’t you think they would use them? Im using this example because this is the most expensive and accurate machine in the world that is manufactured. If there were invisible advantages to audiophile AC power cables don’t you think they would be tested and used when the need for accurate is so important. Intel couldn’t make 5nm chips a few years ago and it nearly bankrupt the company, money is not in the equation of chip making only accuracy and the engineering to make it happen is and they don’t use special AC cables. Hope my argument is clear.

One could argue that rain is just excessive humidity, therefore an umbrella is not necessary. 
 

Deniers can rationalize all they want that cables do not or should not matter but they do. 

What you fail to understand is that " accurate" in an acoustic perceived experience way cannot always be reduced to "accurate" in an electrical way by a limited set of electrical parameters among all possible ...

Human ears are trained by evolution to identify some qualities relating to timbre experience be it speech recognition or natural sounds, or musical one etc , This timbre experience acoustic qualities may be related in some case to the various parameters and material composition belonging or beside or near the vibrating resonant source and affecting it ...

Very simple experiment :

Put a big chunk of shungite on an amplifier...

Or try a big chunk of quartz...

Then try it many times and you will feel the difference with a music piece ...

Even if your electrical measures tool set will not detect any change in the amplifier specs you will hear a more compressed sound or a more meaty one with the shungite chunk and a more "clear" or less compressed or more high frequencies oriented sound with the quartz ...This is caused by the very different composition of these minerals affecting the playback system in such a way as impeding or improving the soundfield and timbre experience for the EARS/brain not for your measuring electrical tools... 😊

The fact that shungite work always in his way and the quartz work in his own opposite  way is an OBJECTIVE fact...

 

If these AC cables did make the usable signal more accurate don’t you think they would use them?