Thanks Erik, Now I get it. My main system uses inputs from cable box, AppleTV and DVD player… so we never use the TV as input. All the bedroom stuff is contemporary. Wow, I missed that problem… I was lucky for once.
Replacing surround with sound bar
The Bryston SP3 processor I use for surround doesn't take eARC so I need an eARC/HDMI converter. It's messy. For simplification I'm thinking of replacing the surround gear (SP3, 2 NAD stereo amps, 4 KEF LS50s, and a large center speaker) with a Sony HT A-700. The audio of the new 85" Sony full array TV is quite good, so I don't bother with surround. Any recommendations?