i2s Cable for Denafrips Iris -> Pontus?


Hi all! Finally got all the pieces to my digital front end puzzle and am getting things hooked up and set up.

What I landed with:

Innuos Zen mk3
Denafrips Iris 12th DDC
Denafrips Pontus II 12th DAC

Right now, I have USB running from the Zen to the Iris DDC, and then using an HDMI cable for i2s out from DDC into the Pontus. I got things setup to where sound is playing, but I have some observations so far.

1. I was using the Zen into a digital input on my integrated. It sounded ok, but wasn't great. I wasn't expecting much, but wanted to have a baseline to see how the Denafrips gear would improve on this.

2. Connecting the Pontus on its own to the Zen, there was an immediate, drastic improvement in pretty much every aspect of the sound.

3. Adding the Iris and getting it configured is where I ran into an interesting issue. No problems getting sound to work by following the walkthrough video, so that was good. However, there seems to be a very slight muffling to the sound overall vs the DAC alone. The sound is less holographic and it took some of the sparkle off. To me, currently, it sounds like a slight downgrade vs the DAC on its own, which shouldn't be the case.

While some of this may be 'fresh out of the box' syndrome that break-in might change a bit, I suspect that possibly using a random HDMI cable for the i2s isn't the best approach and may be contributing to this issue.

Not sure if others that have this combo have run into this at all. If so, would like to hear if the cable choice was the problem or if it was some setting somewhere. The instructions for these aren't the most thorough, so it's definitely possible it's a setting issue as well.

Thanks for any help!

 

128x128mmcgill829

@soix I actually went with the DH Labs Mirage USB for the USB cable. Has a lot of the same features of the Lavricables. Slightly more expensive, but with the 25% off sale it's in the same neighborhood.

Good choice — DH Labs obviously makes good, high-value stuff, and at 25% off it’s hard to go wrong. 

@soix I cannot find any HDMI cables 1 foot or less...DH makes an 20 inch, Wireworld a 24 and AQ a 30...any suggestions ?

@jl35 I use 6” cable from Monoprice for under $7 I mentioned above…

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13578

Given my results and at this price I’d highly recommend giving it a shot and see if something else can significantly better it.  Frankly I’m seriously wondering if cable quality or length is more important for an HDMI cable for i2S, and given my experience and what others have said I’m leaning toward the latter.  FWIW.

@soix 

So quick update: after a few days of pretty heavy listening, it did seem to open up a little more (though some may be attributed to my ears adjusting to the sound). I did still hear a minor difference when the Iris was connected versus just running to the DAC, however.

I received the new cables from DH Labs and...it's a night and day difference. It's not even close. Removed what felt to be a veil over the sound immediately, along with improved the imaging, detail, etc.

While I've heard minor differences with different cables in the past with other components - like slightly blacker backgrounds with nicer power cables, etc - I've never experienced such a drastic improvement just from a couple cable swaps.

Some of it might be switching from a 1m cheap HDMI from amazon to a 0.5m HDMI, since the shorter length is ideal for i2s. Whatever it was, replacing the USB and HDMI cables did the trick and then some.