WHY IS THERE SO MUCH HATE FOR THE HIGH END GEAR ON AUDIO GEAR?

scottwheel are you secure in your shoes?

If yes why trying to convince others people who trust their ears rightfully or wrongfully ?

My self i know with my ears that the cables i tried made a small difference ...

Perhaps some can make a bigger difference ... I dont know and i am not interested by cables , especially costlier one, not because they will not affect my S.Q. but because for me it is minor ...

Why in the hell are you so obstinate to negate other people ears experience, even if they are deluded ?

I believe them myself because cables make a difference but a very small one compared to electrical, mechanical and acoustical working controls ...

Is you mission in life is transmission of the double blind test scripture ?😇

Why not explaining to people instead of asking for blindtest what is the BACCH filters and why it matter more than cable or amplifier upgrade? this is way more important...

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I thought double blind was a dead issue.

No one, regardless of which side of this fence they occupy, can assert that the knowledge of the test does not alter the very act of listening. One of the few things that J. Atkinson has said with which I agree.

If you hear a difference this difference exists. If you dont it doesnt. I dont try to convince anyone of anything and remain secure in my own experiences. 

By the way, setting up a quasi-viable double blind test is not a simple undertaking.

I will add that anyone participating in a DBT typically has a dog in this fight. They either want or dont want to hear a difference. The results can be tainted accordingly. The objectivist have created just as viable a market by taking a vocal position as have the subjectivists. 

Exactly and the objectivist as the subjectivist are focussing on the GEAR piece, with their taste for the subjectivist and with electrical measures of the specs as the main ground of sound qualities ; the two sides ignore  psycho-acoustics and hearing theories and deep mystery  ...

This is why the two groups are deluded in their own opposite way , deluded by their "tastes" for the gear or deluded by the measured electrical specs ......

At least the subjectivist trust their ears for the better or the worst but the ears which must be trained by acoustics is the only ground for audio experience ...Not the electrical tool so useful it is ...

I will add that anyone participating in a DBT typically has a dog in this fight. They either want or dont want to hear a difference. The results can be tainted accordingly. The objectivist have created just as viable a market by taking a vocal position as have the subjectivists.

@scottwheel  The only one being a dickhead here is you, my friend. Your not knowing Barton was part of the original tests was born out by you when you said:

Actually Toole and Olive essentially did exactly the same test using speakers

Not together, not with them, but a different test that was done the same way.

can you cite the difference? My prediction is you dodge that question because there was no difference and you fire back with more dickish insults.

No need to. But since you seem to have selective memory, go up this page to what andrewdourin said @ 2:27pm. That is what I was comparing it to. That, and you sure like to use the dick a lot in all manner of variations. Grow up some, lad. 

All the best,
Nonoise