klipsch cornwall iv upgraded crossovers


I own a pair of cornwalls, amazing speakers they are paired with MC452 power  and a MC 70 tube pre.I play cds only on a yamaha C2100. My question is I hear people talking about upgrades to the crossovers on the corns  and softening the horns with  sound tape . Do any of those changes work,one or the other and do they make it worthwhile. Would like input from anyone who has tried the upgrades and who they used

eoj4952

@wrm57 so prove it.  If it’s not subtle then it should be easy to demonstrate in a video comparison.  Please note, I’m not expecting you to actually tear apart one of your speakers just to prove a point, but I think your claim is absolutely worthless without some type of demonstration. There are thousands of audio videos on YouTube, some of them with terrific A/B comparisons. But it’s almost always different speakers or different amps which show audible differences. I’ve never seen any audio tweak or cable videos with actual sound demos. I wonder why 🤔

It is true that low cost parts do not necessarily mean bad sound or a substantial compromise in sound quality.  At its price point, the Cornwall cannot be built without some cost cutting and savvy design means making the right choices on where to use “cheap” parts.  But, to suggest that those who substitute parts or modify the design to improve its performance or better suit their preference are just “fickle” and must meet some kind of blind testing criteria to justify their choice is unreasonable.  First, it is a personal choice and does not have to meet a long term market-supported approval measure.  Second, is there any evidence that Klipsch applied blind testing for every one of their design choices?  I bet they do what most of us do; they listen to the results.  I am sure Klipsch designers hear many improvements that they chose not to adopt because of cost, manufacturing difficulty, or some other practical consideration.  Those consideration may not be in play to stop an individual from making a modification.

There are thousands of audio videos on YouTube, some of them with terrific A/B comparisons.

I'll never understand why people think they know what something sounds like based on a lossy YT video. It's like using mp3 files as demo tracks.

Cleeds,

It is not like using lossy MP3 videos,; it is MUCH worse.  With any video you are hearing the gear in the video, the room, the recording gear, etc., before you even consider what the audience is using for playback.  Even if the person shooting the video is a recording engineer, the sound would differ based on the technique employed.  I also doubt that $5,000 microphones were used for the recording.  
 

I think you were being too kind in omitting words like “idiotic” in your put down of auditions via YT.

Yep blame YouTube. Blame the recording equipment. Typical excuses. And some of those reviewers use very high end equipment and even include links to non compressed audio. What nobody seems to be willing to acknowledge is that these changes typically produce differences that are so subtle that it’s hard to even notice a change let alone conclude that they’ve made an improvement.

While I’d love to be able to home demo everything that’s just not realistic. YouTube isn’t ideal but at least it’s something. My findings from dac comparisons conducted at home were very much in line with what I heard in YouTube videos. I’ve also found YouTube useful for most speakers and amps, but I still demo in person before purchasing whenever possible.
I think some of you guys really need to be honest with yourselves before posting on here and making claims you know are unlikely to be challenged. You also need to educate yourself on cognitive dissonance and other forms of bias that influence how you feel about subjective tiny differences. I get you might be feeling distressed because you spent a ton of time & money on something that nobody else seemed to notice, but don’t make it worse by influencing others to do the same.