Have we lost civility and respect on Audio forums?

But i leave you a respectful way out….just explain a few things like SOTA and by  what means congruent and conforming to your stated beliefs you will establish improvement across a simultaneous multi variable change ( the room )….

 Do you think that this interview will demonstrate that Toole’s and Olive’s own accounts and published papers misrepresented their use of double blind tests? Simple question.

Simple answer: I never said or implied that it does. Does the fear of listening to it lead you to think it does? I don't. In fact, I said so in my last post and yet you keep on regurgitating (what's gotten to be a meme by now) that I did. Are you confusing me with what other members may have said?

The only issue you're dancing around with is this notion that all this double blind listening is done with "quick switching" when it was most likely not. You never went back and cited where Toole and Olive did just that. Throwing up all the other things they did is not germane to this discussion, but a smokescreen, a diversion.  

You called me a liar earlier for pointing out they took 20 minute breaks between sessions, which you've never been able to dispute. If you'd listen to the recording, you'd see where you're wrong and you just can't do that, can you? It's okay to be wrong. We've all been wrong. It's not the end of the world...just an adjustment. Without adjustments, we all keep going the wrong way. 

Very simply put, they didn't have the speaker swapping device back then. That's it. The rest is some confusion on your part as to everything else you bring up.

All the best,
Nonoise

“The only issue you're dancing around with is this notion that all this double blind listening is done with "quick switching" 
 

I never said all blind listening *is* done with quick switching. I said it should be. The Harman shuffler switches speakers in about 2 seconds. It’s not instantaneous which would be ideal but it is quick. They spent north of a million dollars to build this just for the sake of quick switching. 

“Just answer the direct ? how will YOU decide ?”

What difference does it make to you how *I* determine state of the art? If you really want me to give you a step by step description of how I plan to judge the quality of my system then please give me a good reason to do so. I just don’t think you are genuinely interested. 

“…… i get you are hiding behind the invitation….”

I’m hiding behind an open invitation to you or Calvin or anyone else to come to my home and listen to my system and judge it for yourselves using whatever criteria any of you see fit? Ok….

“But first… invite yourself “

yeah, I don’t really need an invitation to listen to and evaluate my own system. I live with it. Given your disdain for my beliefs and methods of evaluation it seems odd you are now so fixated on it. 
 

Again it’s an open invitation to listen to my system and evaluate it any way *you* see fit. What are *you* hiding from?

I would take up any such invitation at my earliest convenience. I’m not holding my breath.

Some are not interested in hearing the music or a difference. Some just want to be right.  WE ARE NOT THE SAME.