Have we lost civility and respect on Audio forums?


I think we have.  I have seen many discussion on audio forums and how nasty they can become when you have people disagreeing. Seems like there are a lot more know it alls now. I been in 20 years and I can still learn.  But I also know I know quite a bit. Like cables can enhance the sound and higher end well designed gear can truly be ear candy special.  Is this just on audio forums or the internet period. 

calvinj

My goal online is to say exactly what I would say to the person face-to-face. Now I am a very direct person face to face.

The problem with that is that in person, communication goes beyond mere words. Eye contact, body language, the nuance of speech are all part of in-person communication. It’s actually a simple thing to speak directly face-to-face, because when you’re thinking clearly it actually takes effort to invoke words that obscure.

But it’s different in a forum such as this.

Well. It doesn’t surprise me that someone is so smart and has the knowledge of oz himself to think that they can come on a forum on another persons thread and tell them where to post their thoughts or opinions. Knowing damn well that wouldn’t do that to anyone in person. Just think about it you wouldn’t walk up to someone you don’t know or never met and tell the, what kind of car they should buy because you dint like the brand or the reason they bought it. Fellow audiophiles don’t engage or even bother with folks like that. It’s a rabbit hole. lol. 😂. @cleeds you hit the nail directly on the head.  You are 100% correct.  

Our society has become this way for 2 main reasons imo. We have been trained by the media, both social and professional to personally fear and hate those that disagree with us. And, people have slowly lost core values in the name of progressive, moral relativism.  Combine the 2, add the internet, and boom, there you go. 

And enter nonoise. Like a moth to flame. Political leanings have nothing to do with views on moral relativism. The right simply acknowledges its existence.

It's all very simple actually...If any of ya had any conversations with your daddies and your grand daddies, it would become obvious how much worse than a piece of chicken the American workforce was treated back in the days. If one were to explore the culture of abuse that existed in the European continent (going further back) before the abused got on a boat and ran to America, it would become even more obvious how much the few in power luv to squeeze the rest endlessly to add more billions to their existing billions.

The rightwing has always had a strategic weapon...always blame it on the other race with a different 0.2mm thickness of skin pigment...it is always the other race's fault, never the good ol' boy (who looks like ya) who's the one squeezing you to death, whenever he's given the chance. And thus, the fools congregate and agree to removal of all the safety nets (hardfought and put in place by their progressive daddies and grand daddies)...And thus, the fools would recreate the hell from a 100 years ago in a heartbeat because their tribal selves fear the other race so much, whom they've also victimized endlessly/for most of their lives.

The problem is tribal divisions itself programmed by external ideology...

Blaming a political tribes instead of seeing the problem at the larger scale is sleepwalking ...

I just discovered a scientist who was working with two Nobel prize and specialist of alzheimer and genetics who investigated in a new book how programmed we are ...

Nothing happening on earth is by mere chance ... There is no conspiration ., only stupidity trailing greed for power ,all is in the open: controlling dictatorship  alleged necessity  but in reality by interest and power convergence or democracy itself  , which democracy  almost disapear as a fact in all Anglo-saxon countries as in Germany and France and stay as  a no more working idea for the moment ...( half asleep brains claiming that i advocate speaking so for going to live in China instead of North america may stay mute)😁

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31nRwB7yh2g

The Indoctrinated Brain By Michael Nehls... Dont believe me check his credentials and listen his short interview ...

When a reliably observable phenomenon can't be explained within the boundaries of existing paradigm, what would a wise person do? Change the paradigm!

Cables in audio is one example. People do hear the differences. Yet the cables electrical parameters measure too close to each other for the cables to be distinguishable in the predominant flavor of the objectivist paradigms.

What is that paradigm? Measuring a cable for a short time with small audio range signals on a test bench, in isolation from the locations and systems where the differences were heard, is sufficient for establishing whether there is really a noticeable difference.

One of the ways of changing a parading is expansion of consideration scope. For instance, a cable at a location and in a system is not only an ideal isolated wire in a vacuum, but also a radio frequency (RF) antenna and a heat dissipation device.

As a radio frequency antenna, a cable can pick up RF transmissions, which active elements in connected audio devices may convert into audible signals. Not theoretical at all: I've observed this happening, multiple times.

As a heat dissipation device, a cable can cool off speaker crossover elements, speaker transducers coils, amplifier transistors, and so on. In practical speakers, thin copper wire may increase its resistance up to 40% due to heating.

So, a thin, poorly shielded cable with poorly fitting connectors may pick up RF energy to a significantly higher degree, while absorb and dissipate heat significantly less effectively than a more substantially made cable.

That's just one example. There are many others in audio. Sometimes communities of people get charmed by too simple of a model, easy to understand and apply, yet not providing enough of practically necessary subtlety.