Step Up Transformer Question


Ok, so bear with me as this is new terrain for me. I was quite happy with how things were sounding and then I accidentally bumped the stylus of my Cadenza Black and snapped the cantilever clean off. I did some research and ultimately decided to have Steve at VAS at fix my cartridge but it was going to take a few weeks and there was going to be no way to play the Christmas vinyl that my wife loves so much. She told me to buy another cartridge so we could have Christmas records. I was stunned. I found a great deal on a Winfeld Ti on this site and pulled the trigger. I've got it on my table and it sounds amazing. 

After speaking with Steve though, I'm going to trade in my Cadenza and have him build me a wood body cartridge to have something different. It will also be 0.2mv output. I think I've got the 2nd arm situation sorted (gonna buy a Wand and a pod to mount it on) which leaves the phono pre. I love my Rogers PA-2 and it is switchable between MC and MM with 2 different inputs in the back. Finally got the SUT part. I've been looking and trying to figure things out. I spoke with Roger and he said the transformer built into the PA-2 is 1:10 and with that I can achieve 70 or so dB of gain. I did a lot of reading and looking and while I'm sure a 4k+ SUT is amazing that's just not where I'm at with all the other expenses at the moment. I saw the Bellari MT502 was a stereophole recommended component for many years and Amazon had one on sale for like $349 or something. Figured can't hurt to try it, it's Amazon so I can always return it. I plugged it in with some admittedly questionable interconnects I had lying around and when I put the phono stage k there was a bit more hum than I'm used to but I said let's have a listen. Holy shit. This little thing blew my mind. Better impact, tighter bass, more space around instruments so better staging, improved transients. This puts me in an interesting place. 

This is an extremely inexpensive piece and it has changed my system quite a bit. I think the little extra gain I get even at 1:12 brings the cartridge to life. My question is where do I go from here? Bob's makes the sky 30 which is switchable from 1:15 to 1:30 which I like because I can play with the gain tubes in my preamp and potentially go to a quieter 12au7 than the 12ax7 that's currently in there. Will that be a real improvement? Less hum? Had also considered ordering a Rothwell from jolly old England but can't find much on them. Thoughts? I'd like to keep this sub 1k or so for now. Maybe I'll save up for a big boy SUT later. 

rmdmoore

I got my 1254's as apart of a Group Buy during COVID. The report was these were Hand Wound Versions due to the workforce being very limited. I got these for approx' $300 shipped to the door. The final build was approx' £400 inclusive of Pure Copper Low Eddy RCA's used on the chassis. 

The Hashimoto SUT built to a very similar Spec' was short of £500

Both prices are in keeping with the monies the OP is considering, It is not known if a from scratch build is something they would consider.

My encounters with Pure Copper Low Eddy RCA's in use, is generating the notion making the use of such connectors is a must for any DIY Builds or Upgrade Works undertaken.

To get the full benefits, Cables used with the Chassis Mount Low Eddy RCA's are noticeably better when terminated with Low Eddy RCA's as well. 

Can you boil down your questions to two or three sentences ?

The only thing I’m sure of is DON’T replace a 12AX7 with a 12AU7.

 

SUT (they are tricky, I got help here, did research, scratched my head, learned this).

Consider selected and future MC cartridges when choosing a SUT (or phono stage with MC):

You need to know both the cartridge’s signal strength AND it's coil's impedance to know what range of xFactor (enough but not too much gain) and that xFactor’s resultant impedance (that will be shown to the MM Phono Input).

Thus you want a SUT with several options of gain (xFactors) AND each of those xFactors give a RESULTANT impedance that will go to the Phono Stage's MM input (separate or in a Preamp).

Some equipment has independent options for gain and for impedance, they usually cost more, but are needed for some MC cartridges with signal strength/coil combos that need that separate adjustability. Best flexibility for unknown future cartridges.

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FORMULAS

GAIN = xFactor  = +____db.      

xFactor squared = _____?

RESULTANT Impedance ‘shown’ to MM Phono Input _____? 

47,000 (common MM phono stage is 47K) divided by xFactor squared ____ = impedance shown to the MM phono input (check your equipment’s MM Phono Input impedance, some not 47k)

The guidance for impedance shown to 47,000k is cartridge coil impedance __  x10.

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example: for current and future MC cartridges (including my friend’s cartridges we listen to here): I chose Vintage Fidelity Research FRT-4 to get PASS and 4 optional xFactors and their resultant impedance

Some/this SUT’s face numbers are confusing, I had to find the specs to know what the face settings meant: how much gain/resultant impedance shown.

PASS (for MM or High Output MC) bypasses transformers, unchanged signal to MM input

Face 3 ohm = xFactor 35.84 (+31db). 35.84 sq = 1,284. 47k/1,284 = 37 ohms shown to MM input

Face 10 ohm = xFactor 20.68 (+26db). 20.68 sq = 428. 47k/428 = 110 ohms shown to MM input

Face 30 ohm = xFactor 18.27 (+25db). 18.27 sq = 333. 47k/333 = 141 ohms shown to MM input

Face 100 ohm = xFactor 10.55 (+20db). 10.55 sq = 111. 47k/111 = 423 ohms shown to MM input

Luckily for me, it also has 3 tonearm inputs, front selectable.

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this shows it (ding in face panel) (price a bit low due to that)

 

 

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Entre ET-100 is similar (black or silver)

 

 

Other SUTs with flexibility can be found

IF you or anyone wanted a New MM/MC Phono Stage with Options, Project makes several among other companies

 

Simple right? It is, AFTER you have the chart of answers!

SUT Info Charts I gathered

 

Chart 2: Cartridge Column: my AT33PTG/II cartridge’s 0.3 mv signal strength and 10 ohm coil impedance is shown just change it to your cartridge’s numbers

When Considering a SUT or it’s setting: I start with Impedance shown to MM Phono Input, then check which xFactor ____? gives that result. Enough or Too Much gain?

The Bottom of Chart 2, Right Column: select the impedance ____ ? you want shown to the MM Input (guidance: cartridges coil impedance x10)

then go left, see if the Gain in DB of that xFactor is ENOUGH or TOO MUCH.

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Note: Calculated Signal Strength: Allow for a bit of loss, I just guess a little lower