High End System Building. How important is the matching, cabling and room? Thoughts ?


The last 20 years as an audiophile and now a dealer has taught me a very important lesson. Everything matters. The equipment can be great but no matter how much you spend the matching is very important. The cabling is also important. Some think cabling is all about making it sound better. I prefer my cabling to not get in the way. It’s like it can’t be a clogged faucet for your sound.  Materials and shielding are very important. In addition to that the room is very important. You may not have a perfect room but you build your system to work in the room you have. I don’t have all the answers but you can’t just spend money and have a great system. Combination of equipment, cabling and room has gotten me there. I’ve tried a lot of gear and cables and this is how I feel. What are your thoughts everyone? 

calvinj

@mihorn I agree the room matters a great deal and I don't mean for this discussion to devolve into whether or not it does, just that some folks can't do a lot about fixing it.  The OP is one of those who cannot.  

@calvinj My room is not optimal either, it is on the small side, maybe 12x9, but I've been able to apply treatments that have helped tremendously.  I plan on doing more in the near future but it's pretty good at the moment and measures reasonably well.  I recently added two subs that seem to have lessened the bass nodes I was getting in the room.

@jastralfu im going to have a former rel rep to come out and set the subs up in a month.  Im currently demoing an amp and dac the pulium and the esoteric N01 xd while the dealer tries out my Infigo stuff.  When I get it back next month.  Gonna have ten former Rel guy set up the 212se properly. 

calvinj OP

@mihorn  i have a difficult room. High ceilings. My speakers can only be so far apart. I have a window to the left

That's why the sound must sent to the listener rather than send to walls, floor and the ceiling. **80% left side of my room is the glass doors.  Alewx/WTA

deep_333 i don’t know what you read but that’s not how I interpreted his last post. Room matters a lot, if you can’t fix the room you have to work with what you have. Getting components that play well together would probably sound better in a suboptimal room than components that don’t. If you have a room with a lot of hard surfaces buying components that are on the warm side might be better than something neutral or revealing.

@jastralfu , When a guy has a suboptimal room, his focus should be to get components that play well in a suboptimal room.

For example, there are some fairly advanced speaker designs that play better in a crap room...beam forming, well controlled vertical dispersion, directivity, etc, Perlisten is one name that comes to mind.

Subwoofers, for example, are some of the best/surgical "room treatment" devices (similar to tuned resonators) one can deploy. By placing even a couple high waf/non-intrusive micro subs like the KEF KC62, hidden away, a guy can completely nullify some awful room modes he may otherwise never be able to get rid off. If instead, he put a "full range" magico in there and called it a day! (no subs), all he’ll hear is some lumpalicious crap.

For example, an amp like Yamaha’s R-N2000A offers some light/non-heavy handed rsc (reflective sound control) filters if you so choose to deploy it, defeat it, match your speakers, etc,

A guy can have very audiophile gear, but, the choice of such gear would be very different for a sht room. The "dealer" would rarely tell you that...he may be all about "matching" expensive crap with other expensive crap and constantly capitalizing on the poor dude’s constant disgruntlement.

The focus should be on matching/marrying things to the room. Of course, plenty more purist audiophile options (to explore different flavors) open up for a good room...not so much for a crap room.

 

 

@mihorn i will have my set up guy come when I get my regular system back. He was really good at set up. Even in difficult rooms. He used to travel the country doing it for rel,customers.