@jastralfu this is exactly what I’m talking about I own a condo. Can’t change the room. My system can never be dead center. My speakers are 7-8 feet apart max. Vaulted ceilings. Hardwood floor window to the left. I put a nice carpet down to limit some things. I don’t use silver cabling cause it tends to be pingy with my tweeter. When I use really good copper cabling the ring radiator tweeter decay is airy like vapor and the decay is perfect. We all have our systems. We know what works. Do I have an expensive system and cabling yes. But once I got my speakers I got to demo everything else before I purchased it. I literally have a super dac that held its own vs. dcs, Weiss, wadax, msb, lampizator etc. my amp is a cool running class A infigo amp. My speakers are gato the guy was a lead designer for the more expensive gamut speakers. I literally was the ear for our cabling after all my years of trying multiple brands over and over. We all have different journeys , rooms, budgets and beliefs. I will not judge your system or your journey. To each his own just enjoy the music. I’m just not gonna think that I’m so smart and that everybody is suckers because they choose to spend their money on whatever they believe in. Most of us are pretty successful in whatever we did in life and we didn’t get here by being gullible or dumb. Even OZ didn’t have all the answers. But somehow a random guy on the internet has the key to audio life. lol 😂
High End System Building. How important is the matching, cabling and room? Thoughts ?
The last 20 years as an audiophile and now a dealer has taught me a very important lesson. Everything matters. The equipment can be great but no matter how much you spend the matching is very important. The cabling is also important. Some think cabling is all about making it sound better. I prefer my cabling to not get in the way. It’s like it can’t be a clogged faucet for your sound. Materials and shielding are very important. In addition to that the room is very important. You may not have a perfect room but you build your system to work in the room you have. I don’t have all the answers but you can’t just spend money and have a great system. Combination of equipment, cabling and room has gotten me there. I’ve tried a lot of gear and cables and this is how I feel. What are your thoughts everyone?
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@jastralfu I I have a crap room but I have great sound that fits my tastes. Try to demo in home if you move from a component or even a cable. That’s my advice. I been blessed to have long demos of high end stuff along my journey. Some dealers are good at letting you try stuff. That’s why I let people try stuff. Hell I want them happy and enjoying their music. |
@jjss49 sometimes you get the right speaker that fits the crap room. Lol 😂 if you can demo before you buy. That’s the best way. But there are ways to get there without the perfect room |
I never called anyone idiots because of cables by the way ... But must i said the opposite of truth because most of us cannot afford a dedicated room ? then cannot understand the acoustic impact... And anyway a dedicated room is not even enough to understand acoustics impact... It takes me hundred of experiments 2 years with one year full time ... I cannot either no more...I sold my past big house and the room ... But i LEARNED something ... My actual acoustic room is an acoustic corner in my basement with no real wall separation .. I composed with it ... By the way i never said that cables dont matter ... but i said that cables comes way after the three main working embeddings controls : acoustical first, and second almost ex aequo in importance : electrical noise flooor of all components and of the room as well as of the house... Mechanical controls over vibrations AND resonance especially of speakers ... Put cables importance in fourth rank ...Perhaps fifth rank only if i count the necessary modifications over many speakers and many headphones which are hugely more impactful than most cabler changing ...( headphone shell mods and speakers porthole redesign and wave guide redesign etc ) .... How many people modify their "precious" highly costly gear ? Not many because it will loose all value , then they MUST think falsely that their gear is "perfect"... It is not perfect half of the time sorry for the news... Most people dont have mile lavigne high tech costlier system in a completely designed room for them ...Most own under 20,000 bucks systems ...I spoke for the crowd here not for TOP of the world design in TOP acoustic room, my rules dont apply for 500,000 bucks system where a cable can matter more than in my system level , but even with a TOP system Acoustic beat cables with no comparison at all ...... ...Nobody modify a 6,000 headphone or a 10,000 bucks speakers anyway ... I will not do it myself even if i guess many of this design could be improved by mods .. Then cables came at the fifth rank of importance in the scale of the impactful levels of importance...This i repeat does not means that cables matter not , but too much emphasis is put on cables by audio threads ... This is ignorance sorry ... You cannot solve any acoustical, most electrical noise floor problems and no mechanical problems with a change of low cost cables for higher cost one ... Saying that is inducing beginners is the wrong road ...
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