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High End System Building. How important is the matching, cabling and room? Thoughts ?

The last 20 years as an audiophile and now a dealer has taught me a very important lesson. Everything matters. The equipment can be great but no matter how much you spend the matching is very important. The cabling is also important. Some think cabling is all about making it sound better. I prefer my cabling to not get in the way. It’s like it can’t be a clogged faucet for your sound.  Materials and shielding are very important. In addition to that the room is very important. You may not have a perfect room but you build your system to work in the room you have. I don’t have all the answers but you can’t just spend money and have a great system. Combination of equipment, cabling and room has gotten me there. I’ve tried a lot of gear and cables and this is how I feel. What are your thoughts everyone? 

calvinj
calvinj OP
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@immatthewj funny how some expect that the room can be better BUT THE EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT CAN’T BE BETTER AND GIVE YOU BETTER PERFORMANCE. 

immatthewj
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. . . and if one does hear a sonic improvement with better electronics in a bad room--it is obviously due to "confirmation bias."

But could confirmation bias ever play a part in how one perceives the effect of his or her high dollar investment in room treatment? NO WAY!! Why, that is just not possible!!

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mahgister
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There is no democracy in acoustic no more than in mathematics ...

I had given many arguments to assert my opinion about what means "musical" ...

Like a children repeating "no" with no argument at all you repeated common place fact : musicality is a question of taste , which is a claim which as i already said is NOT EVEN WRONG ...

Individual taste is beside the problem about what is musicality ,because you cannot define something by mere individual taste you must define "musicality" or "euphony" as a collective experience resumed in a concept defined by objective parameters and confirmed subjectively by most subjects speaking a language or listening some music in some Hall ...

 

As i said you conflate individual taste with the collective conditions for a "musical" acoustic experience ...

Keep your "taste" and opinion grounded in your navel ... And i will keep mine grounded in acoustics...

 

 

We do all have opinions.

However, some state that their "opinions" are undisputeable facts.

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mahgister
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. . . and if one does hear a sonic improvement with better electronics in a bad room--it is obviously due to "confirmation bias."

It is not because an amplifier sound better by its design than another amplifier in a bad room that the definition of "musical" is grounded in individual taste ...😊

You put in my mouth the false claim i never said that it is impossible to distinguish between a low cost design and a way better and costlier one ... Only an idiot can say that, and i am not one ...

The sound of a good amplifier ( in a bad or good room nevermind) is grounded in the craftmanship of the designer and his knowledge of psychoacoustics as explained by atmasphere , and it is grounded then in ACOUSTIC , bad room or not ....

Euphony is not a word used to justify your gear choice, it is a concept used by the designer to improve the amplifier design because this concept has a spexcfic acoustic meaning ..

 

I think that you even confuse acoustics with an "s" with room acoustic ...

I think also that you conflate my point and my position with the naive  objectivist who think that only some  electrical measures of the design verified by their toy tools matter...

Sorry i am not a subjectivist focussed  on his taste for the gear  and i am not an objectivist focus on his pet tool measuring fad...

Am i too complex for your brain ? it seems so...

 

😁

Buy a book ...

 

 

 

immatthewj
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I had given many arguments to assert my opinion about what means "musical" ...

What you did was typed a lot of undecipherable word salad that you stated was indisputable FACT.  Then you went on to state that Mirriam Webster has it all wrong, but you have it absolutely and undeniably correct.  And you still won't explain why anyone should take seriously that gobble-de-gook that you type, but not Mirriam Webster.

Keep your "taste" and opinion grounded in your navel ... And i will keep mine grounded in acoustics...

Keep it where ever you wish. It doesn't matter to me, but at least it does appear as if you are now understanding that the definition of music/musical/musicality is a matter of "taste and opinion."

 

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