Vandersteen Treo vs 3A Sig as upgrade

I have been using the Treos with a Vandy sub for over a year now. It sounds like all of the things you were missing in the Treo auditions could be corrected with a sub or 2.

If one runs the Treo full range, a sub will not correct what the OP describes.

Shakey

Shakey(((If one runs the Treo full range, a sub will not correct what the OP describes.)))

Yes it will Shakey,but just not your sub....

Unlike other subs
A properly high Passed pair of Vandersteen 2WQs will correct for this
by adjusting the High pass to optimize the main speakers
Tighter or fatter, your call, your preference, you achieve a smoother in room response, dramatically reducing the distortion with the main amp, speaker, room pairing.
The 2WQ subs offer a Level output and Contour setting tighter to punchier this allows optimizing into a room with either a wood floor to a cement floor.
Most folks reaction why does my whole system get better?
Best,
JohnnyR

There you have it. If you high pass the Treos, they will not be running full range. Which is what I said in the first place. This can be done with any speaker.

Which is exactly my point. This isn't a discussion of the Treos specifically, but this could apply to any full range speaker that you choose to NOT run full range.

Shakey

Shaky, you are out of your league on this one. Either way, why would it matter to you? IF OP loved the Treo sound and wanted the subs to get all of what he is looking for, shouldn't you be supportive? Nearly everyone who is active in this hobby will tweek their systems to achieve greater response. Some tweeks cost much more than a sub or two. Do you know what the high pass filter does or how it works in the Vandy's? As Johnny was kind enough to explain to you, it doesn't work the same as your sub. Your dislike for anything Vandersteen (just look at your post history) is obvious to most of us who post. I've had more than a couple of folks email or PM me asking if I know who you are and why you jump into any Vandy discussion and dismiss them. Many times it's the same things that you bring up and they've already been explained to you, but you are a persistant poster, I'll give you credit there.

So I guess the only question for OP is the budget. Does he want Treo's with subs and get all that he's wanting or does he continue his quest. I just thank OP for letting us follow his journey. Sounds like his bike rides to listen to audio are also a fun part of his journey. W, please keep us informed as you have. You've taught me a lot about answering audio questions and how NOT to start answers and I thank you for that. You earn stars as a poster in my book. Thanks