What makes One Music Server Sound Better than Another?


So this week my Mojo Audio DejaVu music server that I have used for the past 2-3 years crapped out. Benjamin at Mojo was more than helpful and the DejaVu is on its way to Mojo Audio where it will make a full recovery.

Thankfully, I still have my Antipodes DX2 Gen 3 (their former flagship) music server so I hooked it up. After wrestling with Roon protocols, transfers, and set-up menus, I was able to get it going so I have music. The DX and my Sonore Sig Rendu SE opt. are both connected to my network so the DX (like the DejaVu), is only being used as a Roon core and the Sig Rendu SE serves as the Roon endpoint for streaming Tidal and Qobuz, with a direct USB connection to my DAC.

The point of this thread is to ask, how come I perceive the the DejaVu server as sounding better than the Antipdes DX? In fairness, the differences I perceive are not great but it seems the DejaVu is fuller sounding, more tonally rich, and bolder. Is this why some here spend $10K+ on a Grimm, Taiko or something else?

If a server is basically a computer, sending digital information to a streamer/endpoint and, assuming that digital information is transmitted asynchronously and reclocked by the DAC’s master clock, and assuming noise is not the issue (i.e., both units are quiet and there is an optical break between the network and both the server and endpoint) then what are the technical reasons one should sound better than the other? It is not that I want to spend $10K+ on a music server with a lifespan of maybe 5 years before becoming obsolete, but I would like to understand what more you are getting for your money. So far, the best I can come up with is lower internal noise as the major factor.

As a side note to the above, when I thought things looked hopeless for getting set up, I scheduled a support session with Antipodes and, although I lucked into the solution before the meeting time, Mark Cole responded ready to help. Setting up the session was super easy and reminded me of the superior level of support I had come to enjoy from Antipodes during the time that the DX was my primary server, including multiple updates and 2 or 3 hardware upgrades, which prolonged the service life of the DX. Good products and good company.

 

mitch2

Yes I do.  They work.  They make a remarkable difference and even more it made a startling improvement to the streaming picture on my TV.  If people refuse to hear then seeing is believing. 
 

The ASR crowd is not measuring the right thing.  

I’m just reporting my experience. If it didn’t work, I would say so. I’m not here to sell something. I don’t know about etherregen. I use LHY and English Electric network switches. Those I know make a difference.

Like I’ve said before, the increased detail and resolution is both good and bad. The detail streaming on my TV rivals 4K blu-ray. I also use a power conditioner on the TV. The bad is that during one show an actor had a wild hair sticking out of his eyebrow. The camera wasn’t close up to him at all but I could see plainly that wild hair. I missed what the actors were saying. All my attention was on that hair and wishing someone would pull it out.

Oh dear.   Ok, so both of the manufacturers of the devices you have claim that they reduce noise.  And Amir measures noise in several different ways.  Tell me what he should be measuring?  What different measurements do those manufacturers use to support their claims?  And btw, here’s a written review of an English Electric switch; same result:

 

 

I couldn't tell you what to measure.  I thought these audio grade switches reduce jitter.  I'm a mechanical engineer.  I know enough to read a voltmeter, bias tubes and solder in a few replacement parts.

I'm working on the applications side here- try it, evaluate it and report. My frame of reference is my vinyl rig and CD Transport/DAC.  

With my new DAC/Streamer combo and the network switches the sound, rhythm and pace is on par with vinyl and the CD Transport.  I can't A/B rhythm and pace.  I have to just listen to one medium for a while and then switch to another.   

Right now, I'm enjoying the music and I can't stop streaming.  A universe of music out there and I'm finding songs that I haven't heard in decades.  That can be as emotional as finding a long lost friend.

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