What makes One Music Server Sound Better than Another?


So this week my Mojo Audio DejaVu music server that I have used for the past 2-3 years crapped out. Benjamin at Mojo was more than helpful and the DejaVu is on its way to Mojo Audio where it will make a full recovery.

Thankfully, I still have my Antipodes DX2 Gen 3 (their former flagship) music server so I hooked it up. After wrestling with Roon protocols, transfers, and set-up menus, I was able to get it going so I have music. The DX and my Sonore Sig Rendu SE opt. are both connected to my network so the DX (like the DejaVu), is only being used as a Roon core and the Sig Rendu SE serves as the Roon endpoint for streaming Tidal and Qobuz, with a direct USB connection to my DAC.

The point of this thread is to ask, how come I perceive the the DejaVu server as sounding better than the Antipdes DX? In fairness, the differences I perceive are not great but it seems the DejaVu is fuller sounding, more tonally rich, and bolder. Is this why some here spend $10K+ on a Grimm, Taiko or something else?

If a server is basically a computer, sending digital information to a streamer/endpoint and, assuming that digital information is transmitted asynchronously and reclocked by the DAC’s master clock, and assuming noise is not the issue (i.e., both units are quiet and there is an optical break between the network and both the server and endpoint) then what are the technical reasons one should sound better than the other? It is not that I want to spend $10K+ on a music server with a lifespan of maybe 5 years before becoming obsolete, but I would like to understand what more you are getting for your money. So far, the best I can come up with is lower internal noise as the major factor.

As a side note to the above, when I thought things looked hopeless for getting set up, I scheduled a support session with Antipodes and, although I lucked into the solution before the meeting time, Mark Cole responded ready to help. Setting up the session was super easy and reminded me of the superior level of support I had come to enjoy from Antipodes during the time that the DX was my primary server, including multiple updates and 2 or 3 hardware upgrades, which prolonged the service life of the DX. Good products and good company.

 

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@tonywinga @fastfreight

If you don’t mind me saying, you’re trying to reason with folks that don’t have the same priorities as you…digital streaming being your primary source, both of you have a deep understanding and share passion for SOTA digital front end. Folks who prefers vinyl, very unlikely to understand the ‘need’ for a high quality network switch / LAN cables / DAC and dedicated server or streamers designed specifically for digital streaming. Heck, Node 2 or something similar is a gold standard for many Vinyl enthusiasts (don’t take my word for it, just take a peek at virtual systems here).

There are of course few exceptions but for most Vinyl enthusiasts, digital streaming serves as a happy medium for background and exploring music but never for serious listening. That’s a personal choice and I respect that cause I am equally comfortable with anyone spending $1K on a cartridge or $8K on network switch + LPS and vice versa. It’s shouldn’t be anyone’s business on how one chooses to spend their money.

Enjoy the music!

hopefully value applies to systems North of $100 K….. i know it does for me ( one vote, but whispered… )

Two ways to look at value.  1)  Can I get a component that will make reasonably good music at a price point that I am comfortable with?  ie,  money is fixed, now find the best solution for the money.  2)  This is the sound that I have been looking for.  Performance over cost.  (Of course we always have limits.)

Glad I never worked for NASA.  Imagine the decisions they have to make.  "Should we buy this $150 billon rocket to get to the moon or will this $110 billon rocket do the job?"  "What do you mean Space X just did it for $500 million?  :)

Well….Bruce Willis might have said it best… ( about the space shuttle ) “ one million parts built by the low bidder “… ha.

i worked on shuttle and other exotic and mundane things…. but i guess that is a past life…

My point, if i had much of one…is are all seeking value even if the marginal costs are high and generate anxiety around pushing the go button….

Wishing you all the best…

I will say, my own admittedly incomplete experience / experimentation ( sighted but w strict level matching ) have led me to running ROON Core on a Nuclueus with a Pardo LPS , on a combination of Panzerholtz and HRS isolation fed by a gamer netgear switch also on a Pardo LPS using SGC optical…… each change evident…. 

What fun…like mucking about w cartridge loading, vta… etc….