Triode Wire Labs


Recently while looking at the Triode Wire Labs web site, I noticed in the descriptions there is no mention of the type of copper or silver used in the cables and cords. For a company that is very highly regarded, and reviewed,  I found that to be a bit frustrating. I expected to see  UP-OCC Copper and UP-OCC Silver made at the Wan Lung factory in Taiwan that is licensed to produce them listed in the description, as they are used in many of the best cables today. But nothing, perhaps they are using secret sauce?

Any insight out there? 

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I did think of that but was apprehensive, some folks don’t like nosey questions about their products, some builders don’t even bother to answer emails. I won’t mention names.

I had the same question, and just got a response from Pete a few weeks ago regarding his metal choice:

"To answer your question, the copper used is an extremely high grade copper that has been cryogenically treated, which greatly improves the sonic characteristics. In my experimentation with silver, I’ve found that it’s a bit "tipped-up" in the treble region. At first listen, you can hear many details, but it becomes a bit unnatural and fatiguing, since it’s unbalanced sounding. The copper I use with cryogenic treatment is a very natural and real sounding, with deeper bass response (than silver), while still remaining balanced-sounding."

Maybe he gets it from *Cardas? In my case I kept the "other" cable that was made with silver, and returned his. Now to be fair the TWL was a fine sounding digital cable, it looked fantastic, and it was 1/3 the price of the silver one, and Pete was exceptional and professional; the customer service was outstanding. However at the end of the day some are pushing the envelope, and many have found a way to use ultra pure silver, or blend metals to get the resolution of silver while still retaining the smoothness of copper in their cables, and some are just sticking to what they are familiar with, which is fine.

*Note that Cardas does not use OCC copper, but he claims his is better, and a few others are quite satisfied with Cardas cables. So I don’t think it is as simple as "OCC sounds like this and non-OCC sounds like that" as some may claim.

 

 

I've gone through a lot of cables over the years.

For the last couple of years I've settled on 2 pairs (1m & 1.5m) of balanced Triode Labs cables, plus a balanced (1.5m) digital cable.

I'm not feeling the need to look further.

As always in this hobby IMHO, YMMV.

PS: I have no idea what materials he uses to build his cables.

PPS: I rarely endorse products. Too many variables.