Benchmark AHB2 in Mono Block Configuration


Hi:

I've owned the Benchmark ABH2 Amp for a few years but am now considering one two alternative upgrade paths:

A New Amp or adding a second AHB2. If I purchase a new amp so far I like the Bryston 3BCubed which is a dual mono design with 200 watts into 8 ohms or possibly the 4BCubed at 300 watts. In either case this is more power than the single ABH2 at 100 watts into 8 ohms. However adding a second ABH2 increases the power per channel to 380 watts .

So much for raw power. What about overall sound quality? The Bryston 3BCubed got an excellent review on Absolute Sound as an amp that would require significantly more $$ to better. Another review I read easily preferred the Bryston 43Cubed (300 watts per channel) over the ABH2.

I'm in the process of completely upgrading my system after several years of the same components. I will shortly have:

An Aurender N20 Streamer into an MSB Discrete DAC with dual power supplies feeding the single ABH2 which drives my Harbeth C7es-XD speakers.

Everything will be new except the older ABH2. Hence the consideration of an amp upgrade.

Now Benchmark will tell you that adding a second ABH2 is only needed when the single amp clips. Other than that there is no sonic benefit to adding a second. I Ffnd that hard to believe. I would think having a second would offer improved soundstage, separation and possibly better performance from the speakers. So my question is:

Have any of you added a second ABH2 and if so what were the overall sonic benefits if any? Also any opinion or experience on the Brystons vs the Benchmark? Or any suggestions of a better upgrade path would be welcomed.

jfrmusic

@jfrmusic 

You made the right decision on source equipment (end-game)! Now, you just need to put the icing on the cake. I would audition as many amps as you can, and don't just limit yourself to Bryston.

I wouldn’t necessarily categorize the Benchmark as a level below something like Bryston just because it is cheaper.  One way to look at it is those accurate electronics (I.e. Benchmark) will allow all the goodness from your front end to come through.  In all actuality, at that point the speakers would probably become the limiting factor.  But that’s ok if you like them - Harbeth can be magical for sure.  But as for the amps, I’ve owned both AHB2 monos and Bryston 2.5B3 Monos. The Bryston has a bit of a bump in the bottom end, whereas the Benchmarks are very flat. The Bryston has excellent bass, but also a bit more emphasis in that mid bass area. Again, you’d have to try it, but given the sound profile of Harbeth speakers which are slightly warm, I believe the Benchmark will be more synergistic.

The difficulty for me concerning many desirable Amps is many are very large and very heavy. Not sure if can handle a 75-80 pound amp by myself. Getting it home and setting it up. The Brystons are reasonable in weight. And of course the Benchmark is a feather weight.

If your speakers need a lot of power BUT are hard to drive a single AHB2 would be the way to go. Monos can sometimes be a little limp with very hard to drive speakers, such as the Thiel CS3.7. Some people with that combo like it but my experience was that when music called for a dynamic burst of power the AHB2 mono could not deliver it for the CS3.7.

My other amps handled those power demands much better. At that time my other amps were the CODA #8, KRELL DUO 175XD, and D-Sonic Class D (with Pascal module).  The KRELL and the AHB2 were my 2 fav sounding amps, but there were times when the AHB2 could not deliver.

I replaced the monos with a single AHB2 on the CS3.7 and it sounded a bit better, not a huge difference. The single AHB2 is rated for 2 Ohm while the monos can handle 2 Ohm on short bursts. At lower volume the AHB2 stereo was better on the CS3.7. 

Now my CS3.7 is a bit of an edge case and most speakers do not live in the 2 Ohm region. I currently have a 6 Ohm Yamaha NS5000 speaker that I use with a CODA #16 amp. I also have a AHB2 stereo amp that I occasionally switch too. It drives the NS5000 great. In this case, monos maybe even better since it does not go into the 2 Ohm region. I no longer have monos to test this out.

I owned a few Brystons, 4B ST, 7B SST, and the HPA-1 headphone amp. They all had a bit of hardness on top. I have not owned the 4B3 but when I heard it at a demo with Vandersteen Treo CT that hardness on top was still there but in a much-diminished capacity.

A few weeks ago, I had a friend over to hear my speakers. This guy knows his audio and is a professional in the audio business and former musician. We did a A/B test with the CODA #16 vs the AHB2 stereo. I think it was on the Stones Sympathy for the Devil track that the bass was preferred on the AHB2 over the CODA. On all the other tracks the bass was good on both.

On the Stones track my friend said the bass region was a bit confused sounding on the #16, but on the AHB2 it was perfect. I was rather shocked for 2 reasons, First the #16 is a bass monster and my prior experience with the Thiel and AHB2 did not ever consider the AHB2 to be strong on bass (accurate yes). The second thing that surprised me is that I knew my friend hated the AHB2 from his past experience. He still did not like the mid and top but I think a better DAC on my system would have solved that. The AHB2 is so revealing that any weak link in the system will stick out. The plan is for a future DAC upgrade.

For me the AHB2 mono beats Bryton as long as the speakers do not dip into the 2 Ohm region a lot.

OP, I have owned CODA amps, and previously had a Bryston 4B3. The Bryston was competent but that's not saying much IMO. CODA makes great value amps and currently I am running an S5.5 in my second system, a wonderful amp but perhaps not quite enough grunt for you unless your speakers are 88db or above.

As a few others have mentioned, given your new super-resolving source stack, don't skimp, get an amp from a next-level manufacturer like Gryphon, Esoteric, Block or T+A etcetera, otherwise you're not going to get everything your source stack has to give.

FYI I have a Gryphon Diablo 300 in my main system and it continues to wow me every time I run it - and especially when I run it HARD. It's like that girlfriend you once had way back when you were the Dude, the girl that the harder you went at it with, the louder/faster/BETTER it got.