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The molecular level explanation of "cable burn-in"

According to one cable seller

"The insulation (or dielectric) will absorb energy from the conductor when a current is flowing (i.e. when music is playing). This energy-absorption causes the dielectric's molecules to re-arrange themselves from a random order into a uniform order. When the molecules have been rearranged, the dielectric will absorb less energy & consequently cause less distortion."

So it’s the plastic polymer (as dielectric insulation) to undergo some sort of molecular rearrangements to minimize the distortion. Probably one of the greatest scientific discoveries ever!

“Many premium AC cords constrict or compress the audio transient as their characteristic impedance restricts the transient current.”

We all know impedance restricts current but how possibly “many” premium AC cords constrict/compress the audio transient (when not carrying audio signal)? Then again is it achieved by this molecular rearrangements of the cable insulation?

Unfortunately there are no measurement data or mathematical formulas to be found to back up this amazing scientific discovery. Simply “it happens”. So I came up with a formula for them.

∆E = P - SoT

∆E: energy absorbed by dielectric

P: energy (power) drawn from wall outlet

So : Smake Oile

T: Dielectric Transition Temperature

classicrockfan
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moto-man

MIT, I am thinking of your "poles of articulation" nonsense..... If it sounds different, shouldn’t that show up in some sort of measurement on REW, or an oscilloscope, or at least something? If not, why not?

Well said moto_man thank you for the input. They got nothing. Another magic lamp named "poles of articulation" actually it’s not really appealing.

Iconoclast (Galen Gareis) I looked it up their speaker cables look so much like the Kimber cables but 3x more expensive. They probably get their cables (bulk) from the same cable manufacturer in southern California. If you know him personally want to support his business or an influencer for him then so be it. If you care about your money buy the cheaper Kimber cables or even better try Amazon. if you don’t like things made in China go back to buy from Kimber.

theskipperthree

"this forum strikes me as an enormous waste of time. There’s a big world out there."

Thanks for the input.

 

 

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tomic601
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@rodman99999  ;-))) 

classicrockfan OP
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curiousjim

I bought a pair of expensive IC’s. Until that, all I ever used were the thin cheap cables that came with cd players. OMG was the difference huge! From that point on, I believe that cables mattered.  In the last four years, I’ve bought seven power cables (all $500 and under.) and to be honest, I’ve not heard a lick of difference, but I definitely am not going to yell and call people names because they can hear something that I cannot.

Very true! thanks for the input. Good audio cables do make a difference but power cables don't. Just get one 10 or 12awg from amazon These days you can find plenty of excellent audio/power cables on amazon/ebay 10x - 100x cheaper than those major brands. I would spend money to upgrade dac/amps/speakers (if i had extra thousands to spend)

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mahgister
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Sorry to loose you...

But i just say the truth about your too long sarcasm which is not really original... cables matter for many people here then sarcasm must be short and sweet... sarcasm should be a wink, not a long, unoriginal mockery...

i welcome you anyway...

Now because as a child who go sulk in his corner and announce he will never return you wait for what ? Sympathy ? Buy a dog...😉

Or stay here because as empathic as a  dog i feel sad that you leave in this way speaking such...Really...

By the way your judgement is too narrow and centered on you... This forum is not a waste of time for everybody...it is for some and not so much for others... In life we are all in different situation and different needs... Cables, friend, information etc there is all opinions here about all that...

I am retired and i appreciate everybody even those with whom i may disagree... i like too much discussing here and not staying alone... I am not perfect... 😊

Whatever your decision will be i wish you the very best....

 

Oh, mahgister, you silly. Just having a little fun with a topic that gets a lot of disagreement and rightfully so. Learn, happy to, we’re always learning. But your tone was more of an arrogant remark than anything worth noting. And yes, Dill, a member since 2007 and just posting now for the first time. (Doesn’t that tell you something?) like Facebook, this forum strikes me as an enormous waste of time. There’s a big world out there. I enjoy reading about this hobby that I inherited a love for from my father who was in it from the early days when I too was bitten by the audiophile bug. But I’m now regretting my little satirical contribution to this forum. My own fault, I kind of saw it coming. I’ll continue to read what interests me, but you’ll never hear from me again. Caio.

 

 

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@theskipperthree
I am with mahgister: too long by a factor of 5, and if it was really that funny, ok.

Life is short. Jokes: shorter still, preferably.

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