Are You A Disciplined Audiophile?


The issue of whether break-in is real aside for now, when you make a change in your system, such as a new component or cable, do you have the discipline to wait before making any other changes?  I usually mark my calendar for a month and perhaps 2 months and try to change nothing else for that period of time so I can better assess exactly what the new thing is doing. But sometimes it’s difficult to wait. IMO, break in is a real thing, both in the component and the listener, but even if you don’t believe components and cables change after a few days, can you wait at least a month to listen to enough music to adjust your ears to what the new thing brings to the system on its own?  

chayro

I have enough of a scientific background to know that you need to change just one variable at a time to avoid confusing results, so I adhere to that sort of scientific discipline.

From my experience, I would say that generally I have heard improvements immediately from changing some components, but that there can be additional improvement over time. One instance that has surprised me was having my Apogee Duetta II (with ribbon midrange-tweeters) speakers refurbished. The man who did the work said there would be a break-in period of a few hundred hours. But I found they improved after about a year of regular use--there was some brightness that gradually diminished, and I could test this with one particular piano note on one particular recording, as well as massed violins in some orchestral recordings. So, that’s another way in which I’m disciplined--like many audiophiles I rely on certain familiar recordings for testing components.

My buddy and I (who is also a forum member) had a DAC shoot-out with three DACs. Forgetting brands, all three were only about 2 weeks old.

It was crystal clear which the better of the three was.  So, I'm still not sure where discipline comes into that. 

I will say that in my experience having the entire system "warmed" up is a good thing.  This could be easily my perception, as in relaxed focused on music and  not on the sht storm that is "normal life". 

Regards,

barts

Disciplined audiophile, that's an interesting idea. I won't wait if the sound is markedly unpleasant. Maybe a few days at most. If it's really nice it's easy to let it go for a few months - if my love affair with the new sound lasts that long. Or, so long as some new idea doesn't intrigue me enough to want to try it. I've messed up a lot of what I thought were great sounding setups only because I got an idea in my head and was curious to try it. 

For whatever reason I have a thirst not just to achieve good sound, but to better understand what it is that makes me think it's good. Just last night and this morning I decided to have a new look at my midrange horn, which has been difficult to interpret since it's measured response varies so much with measuring distance and angle. It's a weird beast and I don't know what's right. I tried a method I learned of yesterday called "beamforming" for measuring. You basically add the measurements together that are taken at various distances. This has the effect of suppressing the effect of early reflections, so the direct response of the horn can be more clearly seen, and adjusted as needed with crossover settings and equalization. The end result seemed to give good overall room response, but boy did that do something weird. The bass seems hard to hear, vocals seems very clear and natural but much louder than the bass, even though the bass measures as loud as ever. Before I did this experiment the system was sounding great. 

So no, I'm not disciplined. I didn't even bother to save the settings I had earlier when it sounded great because I was too eager to try new things. 

I understand that for sure...

Some collect cars one after the others...

So no, I’m not disciplined. I didn’t even bother to save the settings I had earlier when it sounded great because I was too eager to try new things.

But i came to audio to understand how to reach acoustic heaven at low price...I dont want new pieces of gear i want a good system to buy new albums like the 100 Montoliu jazz albums , a great pianist...

I learned basic acoustics to solve my problem. Once it is done why bother with new gear ?

it will cost me 15 time my actual basic cost to go better not with a marginal improved S.Q.

Then nothing is right or wrong here with you or with me ...

You listen gear change when you are bored by music , i listen music all day happy and proud of my modified system never bored by it because it is balanced acoustically ... I dont need to do acoustics experiments anymore , i loose my first room. 😊

But i must admit that if i can and younger with more money i would recreate another room with other system...To explore acoustics with different speakers type ... ( acoustics is one of my passion )

You are creative as i was...

It is that music matter more for me now than changing gear ...😊

 

But in our two situations , you with your next new gear , me with my past systems, we need to use acoustics to create great experience , not just buying gear piece ...

 

my very best to you then ,  and i say it with a bit of curiosity about your Horns speakers ... After all i am an audiophile ... ☺😁😊😉

 

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