Anyone use a DVD player as a front end?


I was at a friends home today and listened to his system which is fronted by a Pioneer DVD player. My friend plays CD's on the DVD player and in his very nice system,the sound was extraordinary. Far superior to many transport/DAC combos that I have heard. What's going on?
janeb
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Bob - that's great idea but I don't have any good quality transport. The other player I have (Cambridge CD4SE) uses standard Phillips CDM12 mechanism.

Idea is great because audio is very mental/suggestive and if you have very expensive transport and strongly believe that it should sound better - it will. There is nothing wrong with it but money could be used better.
Bob -- Thanks for calling AudioDiffMaker to our attention. I hadn't heard of it previously.

I looked through his 20 page slide presentation, though, and I'm a bit mystified as to how it is supposed to be able to reveal (or reveal the absence of) very subtle tweak-related differences, considering the time-varying inaccuracies that figure to be introduced in capturing the material into a computer.

For instance, on page 14 he lists, among what he calls "uninteresting differences," "small sample rate variations." On page 17, he indicates quantitatively how that can severely degrade the results, and indicates that "the best fix is to lock sample clocks." That would, I think, imply two sound cards doing simultaneous captures of the two sets of material, with their clocks locked together. Most computers are not set up that way, and depending on what is being tested both audio streams might not be available simultaneously.

Also, more generally, it seems to me that the zillion or so asynchronous things that continually happen in a computer, resulting in constantly changing noise conditions, are likely to result in some of that noise coupling into the sound card and its a/d converter, swamping the subtle differences being tested for, via sample rate jitter, signal-to-noise degradation, and other effects.

He does refer on page 18 to the desirability of running a dummy test comparing a sound file to another capture of itself. It would be interesting to know what kinds of results people have gotten doing that.

Thanks again for calling this to our attention.

Regards,
-- Al
Janeb: You'll have to forgive me, but after looking at your system and your date of registration, I really have to ask if you really own all this stuff or are just having fun with everyone here (ie. trolling)? By my calculations, not including a few components and a bunch of cabling, your system has a suggested retail price of approximately $675,000.

I would hope that the DV 414 would not sound great compared to your analog front end. Mine doesn't either but the ratios (more like $200 vs. $5-6K inc. phono preamp, although extreme by many peoples' standards are not quite in the same league as yours.