How you know your system is improving?


Fellow Audio Junkies - 

Over the last few years, I've invested in my first high end system. It's been a far costlier affair than I'd initially conceived. I started off simply wanting to listen to music in my home. At this stage of my life, I was fortunate to have some resources to invest which led me down the path of reading forums and reviews, while also having the opportunity to visit a few audio stores to demo equipment.

And down the rabbit hole I went... Once I realized all the nuances of equipment and their impact on the listening experience, I became fascinated with creating the most satisfying musical experience in my house. I ended up purchasing several amps, three sets of speakers, NOS power tubes, and a myriad combination of power cords.

With each investment, I would often remark to myself "yes - I hear an improvement..." But sometimes a doubt would cross my mind. Is this some sort of confirmation bias I've got going? Am I just throwing money away? Do I need to see a shrink? 

Admittedly, I was largely convinced things were improving, but a small part of my brain recognized I might be have been chasing windmills... 

Which brings me to this question: "How do you know your system is improving after you've made a system change or hopeful upgrade?" 

For me, a moment came last night when I put on a piece of music - Beth Orton - and played a track that a year ago sounded muddy or poorly recorded. There have been several system changes since I last played that Beth Orton track. As I began streaming over Quboz, I could hear details in the music which had been previously fuzzy and hidden. The tone of her voice was more real. Guitar strings came out of the fog... 

I guess the concept I often read about here, "using a test track" had become my new litmus test on whether my system was improving. It was inadvertent, but I think I'll default to this approach more consistently moving forward, going back to a few tracks that have proven to be challenging with the current system and giving them a go when a new component gets added. 

Yes, I know... nothing radical here. But would welcome how many of you benchmark improvements in your own systems! 

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For starters, you only need to please yourself, so if you’re happy or "happier", your system is good and/or improving.

You’re also only as good as your reference. Getting exposed to systems that exceed yours can be useful. So can listening to live acoustic music like piano, guitar, voice, or orchestra.

Expectation bias can certainly come into play, but it should be temporary.  Usually if I’m making a change, it’s because I’m trying to eliminate an area of concern, or improve a specific region. It can take time to determine if the change had the desired effect, and did it without causing another area of concern. Give the changes a good long listen to overcome the day to day variables we encounter. Listening is a skill. On any given recording, pick out things you like or dislike about the recording itself. If some of the undesirable characteristics are a repeating pattern, it could indicate a problem area of the room or system (like sibilance or boomy bass)

Most importantly, enjoy the system, enjoy the music, and enjoy the fun of changes. If you’re happy when you listen, all is well. 😎

You bring up some very good questions.

Improving your audio system is a very long term endeavor. In the beginning what you don’t know is nearly infinite. Necessarily the process involves learning. As you learn your tastes change. This has certainly been my history. It is a path with many dead end forks. I have followed a few.

In the beginning there are some aspects of sounds that you are attracted by. For me, detail, slam, and an emotional connection (which I was not really conscious of). So, when I went out I would listen for improvements in this. Then I learned about micro details and tonal balance. Then… etc. So my repertoire of parameters I look to improve increased.

 

I assembled a few CDs to be my official audition discs. They were a few of my very favorite albums at that time. I was currently into electronic music. This was a huge problem. I was able to maximize the ethereal nature of that music and made it really magica to me, but unfortunately, all other genre sounded worse… much worse. There was so much detail that a vast majority of albums would sound terrible. This made me realize that if you are too ruthless at pulling detail off the media the result would be a lot of bad sounding albums. So I backed off from that and tried to walk a line where enough detail came, but not too much.

After pursuing this for about 10 years, I ended up with a system, which was not too ruthless, but somehow I had lost the soul of the music. It was still too analytical. So I started listening to live acoustic musical events. I would listen to pianos, cymbals, etc, individually. I attended the symphony for 10 years and seventh row center seats. All this led me to realize that my system was way too detailed with lots of good slam, but very unmusical. The venue and miking techniques stuck out… but this isn’t what happens at live musical events… it is the music and the emotional connection that are emphasized. That’s when I finally learned what rhythm and pace and mid range bloom were. The following 10 years I completely reconfigured my system. It is all tube electronics now and sounds like real music. It has the heart and the soul of music. It makes me want to tap your foot and close my eyes and get lost in it. After my max of three hours a day, I have to drag myself away.

So getting to a great sounding system is long process. I think it can be shortened considerably by emphasizing training your ear with real acoustical venues so you know what real music sounds like and then working to achieve that through your system. You have to listen enough and deeply in the real world to develop a deep knowledge and long term memory of it. This keeps the emphasis on the music and not just amazing technical feats.

 

Also, my system while having great detail, imaging and bass is extremely forgiving. So, unless an album is really a terrible recording it will sound great. To do this your system must focus on reproducing the key elements of the music… not just easily perceived parameters. There are companies that are dedicated to getting the music right some of these are Audio Research Corp., Conrad Johnson, VAC, and Sonus Faber.

I hate to say it, but there have been times I have listened to a particular track and thought, "Wow!"  But then on a later date I have come back to listen to that track and never heard what I had heard the wow-time.  And that is without any equipment changes or alterations in between sessions.  I don't know what it is that causes that with me.

I'd also say that generally speaking:  I have found that the better my system became, the worse that poorly mastered or poorly mixed or poorly recorded source material sounds.