Give Up on Bacch?

Choueiri did not invent acoustics...Even if he is a genius...And he is... Reading his articles...😊

His filters gave us to perceive what i already learned to perceive in my own room experiments about spatial qualities...( but i could not and cannot eliminate completely crosstalk mechanically even if i tried 😁)

Reverberation is key, listener envelopment (LV) and source sound auditory width (ASW) are for exemple factors about spatial qualities most people who never played with acoustics of their system/room had no perception because they dont had the concept.... We cannot perceive clearly what we had no concept for before the perception.

And the BACCH filters cannot replace our room acoustics or make a bad recording greater about all acoustics aspects which were never recorded appropriately to begin with ...

I dont have the BACCH filters myself nor did i ever heard them but because i experimented 2 years non stop with my room all aspects of sound described by Choueiri make perfect sense to me when i read his article..

Most audiophiles know only superficial aspects of sound : imaging and soundstage which are anyway  only external manifestation of these 14 acoustics qualities  under controls, spatial and non spatial one...

@mahgister What you write is an affirmation that Edgar is on the right track and that investing time, money and effort to train my ears (my brain, actually) is worth it.  It was a bit of a shock to realize that a conceptual framework, new vocabulary and experience applying both are necessary for perception.

@mahgister What you write is an affirmation that Edgar is on the right track and that investing time, money and effort to train my ears (my brain, actually) is worth it.  It was a bit of a shock to realize that a conceptual framework, new vocabulary and experience applying both are necessary for perception.

Yes it is what i claim...

Your system/room/ears/brain must be tuned...

Together and each one ...

It is a process not a purchase...

And if it may comfort you the truth is BEFORE  my two years acoustics experiments i had no clue about sound.... As most audiophile objectivist as subjectivist one i was lost and i did not even know it ... ...

 Acoustics rules audio experience and design . Period.

 Takes all easy one week at a time and be relax and go on slowly at your own learning speed...

I tried Baach and ended up returning it.  It doesn't sound too natural for me and what I noticed was the tendency to mess with instruments decays was the cause. Edgar was super pleasant to work with and I did struggle to like it, but in the end the need for Mac and increased complexity with degrading performance, it was an easy choice for me. 

@khragon I ultimately decided to go all in and not only kept the Bacch4Mac but upgraded to the RME Fireface.  That will necessitate buying a new power amp and moving my 2-channel to a different room.   At present I'm working with GIK on treating the new room.

As you can see, I've gone down the road @mahgister describes above.  Is it going to be worth it?  Not sure,  but I think so.  The impetus for the changes is the Bacch implementation, but I knew already that my current room was a limiting factor.

In my current suboptimal room and without head tracking, the Bacch system gives a noticeable improvement in SQ for well-recorded tracks.  Definition, placement, embodiment, stage depth are all significantly improved. With average recordings? Meh.

Best wishes.