If you have a nice system why do you really need room treatments?
Yeah you may need an absorption panel if your room is completely open, ie. No rug or furniture, ie just lonely single chair. But if your system can't cut it in any room then it's a system problem and you should be able to discern a good system regardless of the room. Unless you put it on the roof of your apartment building but the Beatles seemed to have survived that effort
I think people go nuts with all this absorption acoustical room treatment stuff and it looks kind of awful. Once in a while you see a really cool looking diffuser panel and I would definitely want one. But to have a system that works really well without any of the acoustical panel distractions is a wonderful thing.
@emergingsoul , I wasn't intending to be funny. For quite some time I thought that your postings resembled @jumia 's posts, and then you did the leaf blower post, and the only other posts I read complaining about leaf blowers was from @jumia, so I was just asking if at one time you had gone by that screen name. That's all. |
When you're famous you have to use aliases. I'm not famous, I'm just another nobody. I think we've all gotten used to leaf blowers and no one cares anymore. I'm in a room right now and all the tested curves look fine and I've done it all with out acoustical stuff except for corner bass traps. Funny thing is, I've had people over and they say how come you don't have any acoustical panels and then they look at me really strange when I say I don't really need them. I think we've just gotten used to assuming you need acoustical panels all over the place so it looks like everybody else.
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That is rather confusing. |
1) the room largely determines how any system at any price will actually sound 2) those with a goal to get the best sound possible will care and others less so 3) some rooms may require little or no tweaks for acoustics and others may be a total disaster. I have measured and tweaked acoustics in 5 different rooms in my house and they cover the range from little or no tweaking needed to well short of a total disaster but some serious issues to address to make things sound their best. 4) trained ears may suffice in some cases but to get it right for sure it helps to measure what you have first before taking action 5) Everything in the room affects acoustics to some degree. Room modes in the bass region are the toughest issues to address completely but some combo of traps and DSP can be applied to make things better. Other specialized room acoustic solutions like panels, etc. might be used to address any issues that cannot be solved in a particular room otherwise. Start with primary reflection points on walls, floor and ceiling based on speaker and primary listening location, Dispersion pattern measurements for a particular speaker model can help determine how to best apply, if needed. 6) DSP including room correction features in your system are your best friend when it comes to tweaking any system as needed to correct for issues associated with room acoustics!!!! 7) These days vendors integrate DSP into hardware (example:miniDSP, Anthem, NAD, Arcam, others) and software (example: Roon). 8) Once that is done (addressing room acoustics) you might then take the next step and tweak the sound from there to personal preference. Or just forget about room acoustics and the complexities of addressing those properly and just DSP to personal preference away as needed, for example using graphic or parametric EQ capabilities in DSP like that available in Roon. Either way (done right) should land you in a better place regardless of how good or expensive your gear is otherwise.
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