room setup suggesion needed
Hi everyone,
The question is for gurus of room setup.
Question is if anyone can suggest improvement of the situation where there is not much room for adjustment.
So there you go:
1) Room conditions
room size 30ft x 30ft
audio wall with the location near centerline
rehearsing distance from the wall 9ft
sound focal point with speakers directed 8ft sound cross path directly at rehearsal point ( not much room to adjust focal point could be pushed back max 3ft, not too happy about that idea)
speakers spread at 10ft center to center ( could be spread possibly to max 12ft with given wires)
speaker face 2ft off the wall less than 1ft space behind ( could be moved forward and tilted)
wall treatments floor dampening as well, floor standing speakers on spikes.
2) SYSTEM SPEC
speakers JBL 4367
speaker wires FURTECH Douglas 7ft be-wire Rhodium spades
Amp Pass Labs X250.8
Pre amp Pass Labs XP-12
Phono Pass Labs XP-15
Turntable VPI Classic 1 JMW 10.5 Hana ML
Server Mac mini
DAC Schiid Modius balanced out
inter connector cable Canari XLR
system fully balanced
power cables FURTEH
Honestly system sounds really good, but better is enemy of good so is there anything I can do better or is there anything that I'm doing wrong ?
Thanks for opinions!
@ditusa My speakers are 38" tall she horns are already on exactly same level as ears, so I can skip rising them. Now creating dampening platform that would separate speaker from the structure can be tricky but I can see logic behind it, it seam to be cuter to subwoofer idea where people deliberately dumping huge boom in to the floor in order to cheat the ears and other senses. I need to do some thinking about the heavy pads. Would it be ok to set it up on 10" steel injection mold ? |
@ssg308 Your speaker's frequency response is rated at one meter. What they do in a 30 foot room is TOTALLY different, not to mention that you need at least an additional 10 dB of gain to get realistic bass levels. You can only do this with 2 15" subwoofers or more in your room. I use 8 12" subwoofers in a 16 X 30 foot room. Each one gets 1300 watts. As for as your sources are concerned you should have a better DAC, a Bricasti Design M3 would be perfect. Your turntable is not the greatest, but your tonearm and cartridge do not belong in the same room as your amp, preamp and speakers. You do not have to spend big money either. Get a Thorens TD 1600 and put a Soundsmith Voice in it. It will blow your mind. |
@mijostyn here is the answer, like always it lays in numbers, 8 12" mathematically should do better job than 2 25" but in fact they don't there fore subwoofer is backing up the system with sonic boom. I don't have that problem in a fact I need to move my speakers off the wall farther to control my overwhelming bass. As far as the sources, my TT is just something I like to play with but I'm not using it as the main source. DAC on the other hand is what I need to develop a bit better and I'm looking for alternative to what I have. I was looking in to the streamers/servers and as of now I'm not sure if I like the idea, sending digital signal from any computer shouldn't be a issue, it's only matter of software and file quality, DAC on the other hand can do big difference so I definitely take your advise and look in to Bricasti Design M3 |
@ssg308, quality, properly set up subs will not add "boom". They will not only add more detail to the lower frequencies but will enhance the sound at higher frequencies as well. You will not be able to to localize the sound from the subs, it will be a part of the soundstage. I have also had success taming bloated bass by closely adhering to the 1/3rds rule. Speakers moved out from the front wall at 1/3rd of the total room length and the listening position 1/3rd of the way from the back wall. Tweaking the distances from there. |
