Would you still pay $10k or more for a turntable not full analog front end these days ?

So the question was - what is exactly different in $10K streamer as compared to $1K.

@mikhailark You’ve now been told by several experienced people here that things like parts quality, noise reduction, power cables, implementation, etc. matter in streamers.  @ghdprentice who’s been in the IT industry for decades described many engineering types he’s worked with as having convinced themselves there’s no way in theory these things should make a difference and just hang their hat on that belief, and you seem to be in that camp.  But he also gave you the best advice and that is, rather than just arguing why these things can’t or shouldn’t make a difference just listen — find a way to demo a better streamer and just listen in your own system and you’ll have your answer rather than continually raising this same point over and over based solely on theory.  

I am happy with my streamer/dac box. With the right set up, It sounds great. Digital changed the music business. Record labels, musicians, etc  are not getting paid what the used to. So, why not keep the old medium alive. No one mentions how distracting are the hisses, noises, and pops of vinyl. Yes, it sounds warmer, but at what cost? Frequency limitations? Old habits are hard to break.

Anytime, I tell any of my friends or any random person that I got back into vinyl a little bit ago goes on about the pops/hiss/noise of records. Yeah, that's what I also remember as a kid. However, now I know that the noise is from static, dirt, and bad stylus. After you clean a record, and use a good stylus, there is no pops, or hiss. Depending on the recording, no other noise.  Now on lesser recordings, the lack of fidelity bothers me.  After my cleaning process, they sound fabulous!  Usually better than streaming, or CD. 

@soix - details please. How does power cable or linear power supply affect running code in the CPU or a network card operation..

No, no one actually offer anything apart from "just listen". You can just rest your case now, you obviously don’t understand how networks operate. Hey, even Denafrips main engineer explains that, but who he is after all, nobody.

Perhaps also call Tidal and tell them to pass over to Amazon (or whatever cloud they rent) to upgrade power cables, install "musical" SSDs and place an order for LAN "Silencers" since they improve stuff and and this will be great for the bottom line - both Tidal and Amazon. I wonder what will happen.

Also, if they use Google cloud, shame, because Google farms are designed and built on crappiest and cheapest computers possible, designed to fail. I wonder how is that FLACs are not affected.

mikhailark

No, no one actually offer anything apart from "just listen". You can just rest your case now, you obviously don’t understand how networks operate ...

It's interesting that although you acknowledge many here have asked you to "just listen," you seem determined to do anything but.

This is a forum for audiophiles. I think asking someone to "just listen" is perfectly reasonable. It isn't clear why it troubles you so.

@cleeds 

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