Looking for phono preamp advice in the $1000 - $1600 range


I am thinking of upgrading my current Vincent PHO-701 hybrid phono stage to something that doesn't cost an arm and a leg and still would make a meaningful improvement.

The chain I have now is Rega P8 with Hana SL LOMC cart, the Vincent phono stage, PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium (tube) preamp, McIntosh MC312 (solid state) power amp, and GoldenEar Triton One.R speakers.

My armchair research has identified e.g. the following phono stages in a reasonable $1000 - $1600 (depending on which and demo/used vs. new):

  • KTE LCR-1 MK5 / MK5S (hard to find)
  • MUSIC HALL Analogue A3 Vacuum Tube Phono Preamplifier
  • Sutherland Engineering Insight LPS
  • Sutherland TZ VIBE (with its intriguing transimpedance concept)
  • Project Phono Box RS2 MM/MC Phono
  • Hagerman Audio Labs Trumpet MC (many positive reviews, with comments that it would benefit from an updated external power supply which, if so, would add additional $$)

Any recommendations or insights into these, or others in my price range, given my surrounding equipment would be greatly appreciated!

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Perkri,

my system had one amp plugged into an outlet with the pre-amp and the other amp across the room into another outlet. The amp that was across the room was making the 60 Hz cycle sound, pretty loud at pauses between songs. I disconnected from the pre-amp and no buzz. switched channels...you know go through the gambit of isolating the source. The answer was that the power chord is grounded, three prong, so is the other amp and the pre-amp. I bought two converters that eliminate the ground - three prong to two prong and all the buzz went away. I left the pre-amp grounded. Apparently the grounding was traveling through the source cables back to the pre-amp and causing the cycling noise.

Hopefully this helps, but if not Tubes 4 Hifi - Roy Mottram roymottram@yahoo.com can help you nail it down. If it's an amp issue, Joe Servini (think that's his last name) k3tye@earthlink.net is awesome. Had to send my amps to him because I couldn't figure out why they were sounding so lean. Joe went through it and found that the factory coloring on the transformer wires were incorrect and didn't match the instructions from the kit. Amazing it didn't melt down. It's now up and running for a few years and sounds better and better as the caps smooth out. have about 500 hours on it and now issues at all.

good luck, I've heard stories about the ground loop being caused by a coffee maker plugged into a wall outlet in a different room. 

Old post, so I'm kinda late. 

I'm using a Sutherland TZ Vibe with a Hana ML moving coil cartridge and they work great together. 

@sls883, no worries and thanks.

I ended up buying the Simaudio Moon 310 LP with the 320S power supply.

To take full advantage of its balanced output I also upgraded my PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium to the PL EVO 400, as the Dialogue Premium only has single-ended inputs and output.

This is how you end up with domino effects, right… :-)

@bimmerlover

Very nice!  Yeah, one thing leads to another.  lol. 

You still a bimmerlover?  Didn't know how old your User Id name was.  I picked up my first BMW a couple of months ago. 

@sls883 Yes, still into bimmers. My first one was in 1995, a BMW M3 coupe, then followed by an M Roadster in 1998, then an M5 in 2000, then an M3 convertible with paddle shifters in 2003 (which we picked up at the Spartanburg factory with the Driver Experience), and currently a 328 cab with stick.

All fun cars! Enjoy your bimmer!