Start with Upgrade to DAC?


I am ready to set out on an upgrade cycle to my system, which consists of the following, over the next couple of years:

* Rogue Audio RP-7 Preamp (Upgrades: Rogue RP-9 or McIntosh C2800--C2800 includes Phono preamp and DAC)

* Odyssey Kismet Monobloc Amplifiers (Keepers!)

* Lounge Audio LCR Gold phono preamp (Keeper!)

* Fyne Audio F-702 Speakers (Keepers!)

* Definitive Tech Supercube 6000 (Vandersteen Sub Three or Paradigm XR11)

* Schiit Bifrost 2/64 DAC (Schiit Yggydraseil or ????)

* NAD C568 CD Player used as transport (Schiit Urd or ???)

* iFi Zen Stream

*iPad Pro for Apple Music

* Ice Age Audio OFC Power Cords

* Audioquest and mostly Morrow Interconnects (RCA & XLR)

* Performance Audio Speaker Cables, using Mogami W3104 Speaker Wire

  I am thinking that perhaps the best place to start would be the DAC, with the idea of moving from the Bifrost 2/64, which I like, to the Yggdrasil (model TBD) DAC, which has gotten superb reviews that speak to sound quality characteristics that are of concern to me.  Budget for DAC upgrade is about $2500.  OR, should I go for room correction capability?

I recently replaced a highly-rated 100 wpc tube amplifier with the Odyssey mono blocs, and I was stunned by the improvement in sound quality, definition, and imaging, but I think there still is some room for improvement.

Thoughts and recommendations most welcome.

mike4597

see recent thread

IMHO, you will not hear a difference in sound from a $1500 streamer vs. what you already have (or even vs. a $6500 streamer).  Think about what a streamer is: a relatively low-powered computer that moves data packets from a source to a DAC, performing no conversions or changes to the data stream.  Differences among streamers are limited to jitter and other types of noise, which can be measured relatively easily.  Streamers are a mature product now, having been around for over 25 years.  So well-engineered streamers that cost less than $1000 have jitter and other noise measurements that are virtually identical to products that cost over $30k!

But there are some here that, contrary to science, measurements, and the listening experience of others like me, believe spending $5k, $10k, or even more(!) can be justified.  Now to be clear, they cite their own listening experiences which they believe perhap even more than I believe in my own.  So good luck as you figure this out.  My advice is to with your instinct and focus on your DAC.  

@slorider45 ​​​​​​

I haven't heard the Denefrips, but I know they get good reviews. You might also research the Gustard R26 r2r dac.  It's what I have and I'm very happy with it.  It's one of the least expensive pieces in my system, but I don't feel the need to upgrade. 

Long but interesting video by Rob Watts covering a lot of ground on DACs, sources, cables, power supplies. 
https://youtu.be/wvfc4UYGDi0

Upgrade your speakers ,having owned a audio store and the art of modding electronics myself Upgrading Loudspeakers weak link ,the Xover is over 80% of 

loudspeakers including many expensive Loudspeakers , why for most companies 

put in average at best capacitors, and resistors , it’s all about $$ . 
they get something that does a decent job not what’s best Ever .

man6 use either Solen, or the mid grade white Mundorf capacitors , and $4 resistors sad but true . I upgrade Every Loudspeaker I own ,ad well as many Audiophile friends. Which is a Substantial audio upgrade.

I’d look at a LAiV Harmony DAC that offers a trial and an Innuos Pulse Mini with something like a Teddy Pardo LPS.  A little over your budget but well worth the stretch I’d think.  Best of luck.