@big_greg the wireless option sounds great, do you think is a good way to go, is wireless going to be accurate match with the rest of the system? Hardwired, at least for most audio products, seem to be the preferred set-up.
Subwoofer Advice
I am running a pair of Martin Logan ESL 13A speakers (24-23,000 Hz). I would have thought with two 10" woofers there would be more bas (the base level dial on the rear of the speakers doesn’t seem to cut it either).
In the past I had a pair of ML Spires (29-23,000 Hz) with only one 10" woofer that had so much base, I sold my pair of ForceField 30s. Not the case with the 13A’s.
I don’t have a lot of room, maybe 16" or so square and I was wondering about a pair of SVS Micros. Do you think they would complement the 13As or do I need something bigger?
Martin Logan has come out with a few new subs lately; do you think I should keep in the ML family?
Hoping to come in under $2K, so used is fine. Thanks all!
I should also mention I’m limited on space so placement would likely have to be on the inside or the outside of the main speakers (same back wall).
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My room is 15' wide x 22' long with the kitchen off to the right of the right speaker
That's actually a pretty big space when you include the Kitchen and vaulted ceiling which you have to account for. You will have to think about pressurizing the entire space to get satisfying bass and I think that's why you feel the mains aren't doing the job. You will probably be happiest with a pair of traditional subs 12" or bigger. |
@rick_n Thanks, now I just need to fine the room (and the funds) to get there. When I use the match finder on the SVS website, they recommend the PB16-Ultra at $2,900 (x2) and REL comes up with their No 31 model at $7,000 (x2)
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You are welcome, the room I have the micro's in is 27 x 15, but no 'space off' and notwithstanding my and others on the SB1000's, etc., They manage, with two other 10" subs in the rear corners to pressurise. I am not disagreeing with @rick_n that if you can fully pressurise with some larger say 12's (precisely why I have 2x16 1x12 and 2x10 (soon to be 2x13.8) in the main room that you won't appreciate it. But when I have my audio set using the SVS 16's in the main room it is timed impact and timed midrange reinforcement, rather than out and out pressurisation that makes it sound "musical". The arc should align 2.2 which ever sub you chose well because Trinnov manages to great effect in mine even with not ideal sub-placement. If arc for some reason doesn't then perhaps see if somebody can give you a home demo on either something with dirac, or a trinnov (amethyst or st2-hifi, latter would be ;old stock') just to see what can be achieved in the room. Correction ARC or other could give you more flexibility with placement on subs. But the (see REL video you tube) placing using track 4 from sneakers should give a good start if you can place them alongside the speakers. As Rick_n notes 2x12" so SB1000 pros (with the 5% off for "godual"). |
@audio_rd_uk you have 5 subs in your room, with another two on their way? |
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