Amplifier Power tubes - important to sound?


i replaced all the small tubes on my mono amplifiers and now I'm left with replacing the stock Power tubes, kt88.

I like what I hear with 12 new small tubes - telefunken nos 12ax7 and 12at7. 

Now I am left with replacing 16 kt88 stock JJ tubes.   will Probably use Siemens 6550 nos.

How much will this impact what I hear do you think?  I recall hearing that power tubes don't make that much of a difference.

 

emergingsoul

@darkblacksmoke 
Lovely, entertaining read! Agree / relate with most of that - though I am a young kid in this hobby (mid 40s) and only caught the tail end of analog tech (film, tape, CRTs) in my youth. Thanks for clarifying on the Signature II. Also don't forgot when they went from those artfully bent square and "D" getters to stamped out halos. Though the structure itself probably has no impact on sound, the earlier square / D getter variants always sound better. Also RIP triple micas and smoked glass :( 

 

@mulveling 

I agree. Nearly all of my favorite tubes have D-Foil getters. I just found a pair of code matched Valvo 45° Long Plate Getter D-Foil 12AU7 that were sold to me lumped in with a bunch of Bugle Boys because they were labeled Bugle Boys. They are excellent, wonderful tubes. Very simiilar to my Valvo mC2s.

I run GEC Triple Mica Black/Welded/Long Plate A2900s exclusively in my MC275s (both for 12ax7 and 12at7, so 7 per amp) and then I use them as my default tubes in my soon to be upgraded Mc C22 preamp. The GEC A2900 is my hands down favorite tube of all time. Nothing beats it.

 

 

 I have the rogue Apollo monoblocks which use 12 Kt88

I have 3 sets of tubes. Golden lion  Electro Harmonix Kt90 and  Kt120.

The 120 are colored in my application.

The kt90 and sharper and firm the gold lion I give the nod to good luck

I have the rogue Apollo monoblocks which use 12 Kt88

I have 3 sets of tubes. Golden lion Electro Harmonix Kt90 and Kt120.

The 120 are colored in my application.

The kt90 and sharper and firm the gold lion I give the nod to good luck

@hiend2 I’ve also used all 3 of those tubes in Apollos. Totally agree with your assessment there. EH KT90 were bright / sharp. Gold Lion KT88 was the best, and my fiend with Zeus (now he has my Apollo Darks) agreed too. The effect of power tube rolling is typically VERY clear! Tung-Sol 7581A sucked by the way. Now I feel stupid for trying it, and I still have 12 of the damn things. 

KT120 was my favorite with all of VAC’s amps, though. You could definitely say it’s a bit colored, but the way it turns out in the VAC amps really works for me lol. I can see why most prefer the GL KT88 there too. But I simply can’t understand how anyone liked KT150 in these amps.

Recently bought a matched quad of 1st generation Genalex KT88 to replace some Winged C 6550 that I thought were terrific; paid what I felt was stupid money for the Genalex (of England) but had to give them a shot given their description. The Genalex are from 1955 and came in crumbling boxes. I mean these things are OLD, lol but I have to say, two weeks into them now and I've realized the hype is real. Just a thicker, more robust sound in every way. Hard to use superlatives that havent been beaten to death but they are muscular and broody tubes that really changed the complexion of my system and I'm totally smitten by the way they play. Like realizing a new set of speakers or cartridge for the 1st time; they are impactful. I'll agree the prices on some on these old tubes is getting out of hand however in my instance, was worth the spend but, I do still believe that swapping out small signal tubes yeilds the highest level of change, in my linestge & DAC anyway. If you've got the means, and many on this site do, find a reputable tube guy, listen to what he has to offer and take the plunge. These old tubes wont be around forever and non of us are getting any younger. Just my experience