Borresen X3 vs Harbeth 40.2 -- my impressions


After reading so many glowing reviews of the Borresen X3 speaker, I decided to go and audition them at a local dealer who was gracious enough to let me stay there for over 4 hours. I went there with the intention of buying the X3 if they appealed to me. I thought I’d share my impressions here for those who are interested, especially in comparison to my Harbeth 40.2 speakers that I adore.

 

The dealer at first hooked them up to the Axxess Forte 1 integrated amp. To be brutally honest, I was about ready to bolt in the first 10 minutes. I just don’t understand why Axxess is getting so much praise. It was the most flat, dry, and boring sound I’ve heard. Luckily, the dealer had some very high end Burmester amp, preamp, and music server (close to $100K retail for the three pieces), which he agreed to use instead. Huuuuuge difference! The Burmester really made those Borresens come alive and sing. IMO, AGD is really doing a disservice to the X line by pairing them with the Axxess in audio shows. They are capable of scaling with much better gear. Shame!

 

If a massive, immersive, and holographic soundstage is your primary criteria and your budget is $11k max, you should stop reading at this point. Run and get these speakers before AGD decides to raise the price. I have yet to hear a speaker in this price range with this kind of soundstage. But if you value other aspects of music reproduction, keep on reading ...

 

Soundstage Width, Depth, and Height:

No contest. Borresen is noticeably better. The soundstage is as tall as it is deep. I heard sounds coming from besides me and behind me. Depth, while not outstanding, is there for sure. Just not as impressive as the height and width relatively speaking. I still can’t get that immersive feeling out of my head.

 

Ability to disappear:

This is one area where Harbeth always struggles. Owing to the thin walls of its cabinets, one is always aware of the big box the sound emanates from. The X3s totally disappeared. Again, very impressive for a speaker in this price range.

 

Vocals:

Sorry, but the X3 is simply not in the same league as the 40.2 when it comes to vocals. There’s this little extra, lifelike quality to vocals in most Harbeth speakers that is hard to beat. I listened to some very familiar songs on the X3, and it became clear why I fell in love with the Harbeth sound many years ago. Female voices are more ethereal and nuanced, male voices have more chestiness. You hear the emotions and every little inflection in the singers’ voice. It simply gives more of the ‘singer in the room’ feeling.

 

Instrument Separation:

This is a tough one. Both are excellent in this regard. But I will give a very slight edge to 40.2s here. Or maybe not. I don’t know. Let’s call it evens.

 

Transparency and Realism:

This is where Harbeth pulled ahead of the X3s in a major way. I’m not saying that the X3s are deficient by any means, but the 40.2s just give you a lot more of it. You really have to live with them for a while to truly understand and appreciate what this speaker brings to the table. It’s truly addictive. The only other speakers I’ve heard that are better in this regard are the Quads or other electrostatics.

 

Midrange and Lushness:

My impression of Borresen speakers prior to this was that they were very fast, neutral, and quiet. But, much to my surprise, the X3s (or perhaps the X line itself) has been voiced to be more on the warm side of things. Sound was warm and had body. Unfortunately, this is being achieved by adding a bit of a mid bass bump. While it gives the speaker an overall warm predisposition, I felt it came at the expense of hiding details in the mid bass region. Harbeth is also known for a lush midrange but it doesn’t get here by sacrificing detail or exaggerating the sound. Another side effect of this characteristic was that acoustic instruments felt bigger than life. Guitars felt like they were 10 foot long. Piano strokes lacked the bite and immediacy that I get with 40.2s – and by the way this is not a particularly strong point of Harbeth either.

 

Tone and Timbre:

Harbeth to the front of the line, please. The timbre and tonal accuracy of the 40.2s is on another level. X3s are also very good in this regard but are somewhat outclassed by Harbeth.

 

Overall Refinement:

I apologize in advance if this is going ruffle some feathers, but the 40.2s are overall much more refined sounding than the Borresen X series. Again, this is only in comparison. On its own, I would never label the X3s as unrefined. The Harbeth just has this extra layer of refinement that you come to appreciate the more time you spend with it.

 

Bass:

As they say, there’s no replacement for displacement. The 4.5” drivers on X3 produce a prodigious amount of bass which is hard to believe considering the size of the drivers. Yet, the 12” woofer on 40.2s gives you more of that deep and tuneful bass. It just sounds more satisfying and fuller.

 

Look and Feel:

This is very subjective, of course, so please feel free to take it with a grain of salt. But I was not impressed by how the X3s looked in person, they lacked elegance. It kind of reminded me of Tekton – okay, maybe that’s too harsh, I take it back. But I was a little disappointed as they looked really nice in pictures. Wish they would lose the carbon fiber touch and the checkered driver patterns. The Harbeths, on the other hand, don’t look as impressive and nice in pictures. I mean what do you expect from an oversized shoebox on stands. But, the quality and craftsmanship of hand-built cabinets has a more timeless and elegant feel to it that has to be seen and felt to be appreciated. I just feel this style, boring as it is, just ages more gracefully.

 

Long story short, I have decided to stay with my 40.2s. They have many quirks, as pointed out by several members on this forum. But what they do, they do it exceedingly well. I found the Harbeth 40.x to be overall more transparent, lifelike, refined, and balanced. They don’t do dynamics as good as other speakers or disappear as much as other speakers in this price range, but they more than make up for it in other ways. I’ve heard people claim that the X3 are twice (or even thrice!) as good as their asking price. If soundstage is your primary criteria for judging speakers, then I wholeheartedly agree. But if you value transparency, vocals, timbre, tonal accuracy, and overall refinement ... the Harbeth 40.x series justifies its higher price, despite the shortcomings.

 

Having said that, I was still very impressed by Borresen X3 and won’t mind having it as a second pair once they hit the used market. But I feel the hype doesn’t quite align with what I actually heard during the audition. In this price range, I find Audio Vector to be a better value.

 

Please note that these are my opinions based on a ‘mere’ 4-hour demo, and only in comparison to my favorite speakers. It’s totally fine if someone draws a completely opposite conclusion, or tells me that I’m biased. My taste, my preferences, IMO, IHMO, etc. etc. etc.

 

 

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@prof  I wanted to collect my thoughts before responding to your question :)

if I have to rank the three speakers, it would be like this:

Harbeth 40.x > JA Perspective2 > Harbeth SHL5+

When I replaced the SHL5+ with JA Perspective2's it was definitely a jump in sound quality in most areas, especially bass and treble. JA has a very modern, crisp sound that I enjoyed. However, I still missed that little bit of midrange magic that Harbeth had. But in almost all other areas, JA was superior.

Now, on to Harbeth 40.2 ...

First of all, it is a completely different beast than the rest of the Harbeth lineup. You would be mistaken to assume that just because you are familiar with other models in the lineup you can extrapolate it to the 40.x. Yes it retains most of the midrange characteristics, but it adds tremendous scale to everything. Everything sounds much more palpable, more real, more organic, more transparent, and at a much bigger scale. It added a fullness to the sound that was missing from SHL5+ and Perspectives. Here's an analogy I would use to describe the difference between JA Perspective2 and 40.2: The Perspectives are like drinking an ice cold coca cola on a hot day. It gives you that refreshing kick while tickling all your senses.

The 40.2, on the other hand, is more like drinking a warm glass of thick, rich hot chocolate milk on a snowy day. You just feel the warmth going down your throat and engulfing your entire body. There's no wrong or right here. Just depends on what your preference is. For me, I love what the Harbeth 40.2 brings to the table. That does not make Perspective2, or Borresen X3 for that matter, a lesser speaker.

However, the 40.2 do require a beefy amp to really wake them up. More so than the Perspective2s.

 

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Thanks!  That’s what I figured.

As I mentioned, I’ve heard the Harbeth 40s And my descriptions would be similar.

Unfortunately, my room situation is complicated and wide speakers

Won’t work well in the room.   However, I’ve got my Joseph perspectives sounding remarkably lush.  My Thiel 2.7s Sound even fatter and lusher.

So I’m doing pretty well in that regard.  
 

 

Good tread despite the negativity. I have not seen a lot of A/B comparisons (not that this really is one). I personally am waiting for detailed measurements or a demo. I have only seen the M1’s measurements and they a comically bad at any price with a 7db peak at 80hz followed by a 5db dip at 300hz. You have to use a translator (built into web browser) to read it but the link is below.

I have seen a few comments now about the X3 having a bass peak. I wonder if they are all tuned like this.

https://audio.com.pl/testy/stereo/kolumny-glosnikowe/3781-borresen-m1/s/3#laboratory


I have seen a few comments now about the X3 having a bass peak. I wonder if they are all tuned like this.

The X3s do have an inherent bass peak, but it certainly doesn’t sound anything like 7dB. My estimate is it might be as high as 2dB. This actually helps them to sound more linear and dynamic when playing at normal levels. My previous floorstanders (BMR Towers) are some of the most linear-measuring speakers on the market at any price, however, in practice, the X3s actually sound more linear and balanced in my room. My suspicion is the X3s are voiced to compensate for the natural dips/peaks of our ears (aka Equal Loudness Contour). This isn’t to say they do that in the same way some other brands do. They sound more balanced than the newer B&W lines for example. 

In terms of on-axis linearity, I doubt the X3s are close to as flat as the BMRs, but it’s quite apparent to my ears that the X3s are considerably lower in distortion. The X3s are over twice the price of the BMR Towers though (and I still prefer the BMRs to all Harbeths I’ve heard), so in terms of absolute value, the BMRs are still incredible. 

I was increasingly gravitating toward great measuring speakers prior to acquiring the Borresens, but the X3s have upended that whole paradigm for me. As I stated earlier, I visited the dealer expecting that I would probably leave with a pair of Perlisten towers, or at minimum, realize the Perlistens weren’t any better than my BMR Towers. Instead, I ended up buying the X3s, which was an easy decision after hearing the Perlisten R towers. That said, I was also able to conclude that the BMR Towers perform better than the Perlistens. In recent weeks I have begun to suspect that driver distortion levels matter far more than on-axis linearity when it comes to subjective sound quality.