Looking for a new Subwoofer


I am looking to replace my Definitive Technology Supercube 6000 with a new subwoofer to augment my Fyne F-702 speakers. My listening room is about 13 x 22 ft with 8’ ceilings and an 8’ opening to the dining room to the left of the listening area. I try to avoid major products made in mainland China—in spite of their at times very good quality, and I have narrowed the brands down to Paradigm, Vandersteen, and JL Audio, specifically, a single Paradigm XR11 or dual Defiance X12s, the Vandersteen Sub Three with “required” crossover, and the JL Audio Fathom f110v2.  My budget is about $4K, with the XR11 and Fathom right at that price, the dual X12s at about $3K, and the Vandersteen with required crossover at about $5300 (including two crossovers, as they are sold in pairs).  I may be able to audition the Paradigms and the Vandersteen; a friend has told me the room correction software with the JL Audio sub is way behind that of the Paradigms.  In light of the excellent advice I have received in this forum, I wonder if folks out there have had an experience with these subwoofers and what they might recommend.  Many thanks.

mike4597

Eve had a broad range and have some newer lines out 

and a great app where you can adjust things from your seating 

There is even a app you can download and buy a usb Mike and totally 

adjust the bass perfect  Thst takes practice though  the REW bass app

i think it called.

These are the best bang for your buck subwoofers you can buy that will destroy any any subs above its price range. These are extreme subwoofers. I am not joking around. These things eat Klipsch for breakfast and destroy new build homes for lunch. You want your pictures to fall off the walls and your glasses to rattle in your kitchen and you have found the subs for you. You can put two of these in your home for your budget and if you're not happy, they will return them for your money back. If you're not happy I'll buy them. They are that good. I have to dial mine back in a huge room to about 40% just for the WAF Factor And even then there is some serious vibrations taking place. These are great for home theater and two channel. Made in the good old USA in Anaheim, California and I have been there a couple of times and auditioned their subwoofers. These guys have been around for a few decades and are some of the best. Sub-builders in the United States. I I'm not a pro of speakers but I know my subs and this is as good as anybody could ask for. Check them out. Read the reviews. You'll be convinced on those alone. 

HSU Research

I have a set of gloss black B&W DB4S subs I’m planning to list. How do these compare with what you’re looking for?

Ive owned my fair share of subs over the decades. Most are over-hyped for what we really need a sub/s for

Check these out https://verafiaudiollc.com/products/vanguard-caldera-12-active-subwoofer

i would go w GR research dual open baffle servo subs either a DIY kit if you have build skills or already made
would be far better for the $ than ANY you mentioned ! Vandersteen? OMG those are crap !
if you want to go more old school watch some of the audioholics YT videos about subs they suggest combining sealed and ported subs one of each

multiple subwoofer home theaters. The benefits include:

► more even bass distribution across the seating area

► better seat to seat consistency for more effective EQ

► more output and LF coupling factor for deep extended bass response

Ever wonder why some AV receivers have only one subwoofer output while others have two or more? How do you determine if the dual subwoofer outputs are independent or parallel and why does that matter? We discuss all of this in this video and show you with measurements why it’s so important to get the proper time alignment in a multi-sub system.

Multi-Subwoofer Set Up & Calibration

•Choose your subs wisely-preferably all identical subs or subs with near equal f3 (3dB rolloff) points

•Place your subs wisely-in home theater rooms, nothing is more important for achieving good bass than proper placement of your subwoofers and listening seats

Multi-Subwoofer Set Up & Calibration

•Make sure all your subs are playing the identical signal -all of your subs should be playing a mono signal that consists of summed bass from all speakers set to "Small" plus LFE info

•Setup bass management-in your A/V processor/receiver, set all speakers to small, use 80Hz crossover setting as a start, and defeat the internal LPF of all of your subwoofers

the common question of whether or not you can mix sealed and ported subs into your home theater system and get good bass. I discuss the problems in doing this and how to overcome them to ensure you get good bass integration and avoid losing very low frequency response due to phase cancellations. 🙂

Many good YT videos on the topic!

https://youtu.be/xo2xkjJ_-zk?si=iiUQTqK81djMtHaB

https://youtu.be/w1LG1m1tR8w?si=a2vvxTyS46b6vxQk

https://youtu.be/ypQu4FncAjk?si=t7sXlonDb-dLpBrY

https://youtu.be/8XE1JsfqKtA?si=pjR9cPiF-RJXvXBz

https://youtu.be/CbAO4-F5Ejo?si=erIyC3pXTW-ea0TP

https://www.youtube.com/live/qxKRinIaGnc?si=w6fHQrNid6jkI8D9

https://youtu.be/7ieX40Ktaxs?si=ZSNaLN4w_m8vdChN
GR research subs :


https://gr-research.com/product/sub-series-double-trouble-with-flatpacks-copy/
https://youtu.be/1Q3QQPO7y04?si=pKYBmMzxtmBFkrU_

World Class Subwoofer Kits

Our Open Baffle Subwoofers use Direct Servo Technology and offer the quickest, cleanest bass that money can buy. There is no other subwoofer system that will give you this level of control and customization.
yea, go GR research for subs i am .