@terry9 On page 43 of Neil's book, he demonstrates with pictures rinsing with tap water using the label protector handles and mentioned the distilled water rinse/spritz using nalgene bottles. Marbles intact-at least in this context!
Kirmuss 'In the Groove' Ultrasonic Record Restorer - Upscale Audio Edition
Looking to get an ultrasonic disc cleaner. This one was recommended to me by an audiophile friend. Anyone here have this model? Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. I know nothing about Ultrasonic cleaners but hear they are great.
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@terry9 You're trying way too hard and, like many people in this hobby, you're way too deep in the weeds. I wasn't giving a Ted Talk on US machines. I was specifically responding to an assertion by @larsman that US machines made to clean jewelry are somehow unfit for cleaning records, which is absolutely ridiculous. In response to his assertion, I stated that all ultrasonic machines clean via cavitation and there's no reason that a machine made for jewelry can't clean an LP. I kept it simple because @larsman seemed to be having trouble with basic facts. But yes, the kinds of machines that he was disparaging are the same machines that US enthusiasts have been using for many years specifically because they meet the criteria espoused by Neil and others. They have sufficient power to clean at 40kHz. They do the job they are designed to do, which is clean. They were recommended when I got interested in US cleaning and they're still being recommended. As far as QC, I very, very clearly said that I've used the same unit for six years with no issues. What more do you need? Video of it operating for the entire six years? Sorry, bud, but I didn't have the foresight. |
I don’t think that being accurate is "trying way too hard." But YMMV. I guess things have changed a lot in 10 years - because 10 years ago it seems there were lots of misc US machines running at less than 40KHz. I’m not in a position to measure everything, so I need to take most specifications on trust. Guess I’m a little less trusting of everyone selling on EBay. Again, YMMV. |
Sorry I am late to the party but here are some clarifications and some information.
The one challenge with UT cleaning is bath management. Small units like the HG with only 400-ml, its easy (relatively cheap) to refresh every 5-7 records, but its filter, like the DG, is very basic and will not keep the bath clean, so every record after the 1st sees water that is not as clean. The better DIY will use at least a 1-micron filter with the best using a 0.2-micron absolute filter that can keep the bath clean for upwards of 4-weeks before Total Dissolved Solids (TDS) reaches 5-10-ppm. Otherwise with DIY the devil is in the details if you want to get the best you can from what you buy, and the book goes into those details. Take care, Neil PS/Direct link to book is here Precision Aqueous Cleaning of Vinyl Records-3rd Edition - The Vinyl Press., and while at the site, read some of the recent record reviews by Bill Hart, he is exploring the not frequented artists; and Bill is good writer and worth a read. |
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