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Burmester 218.....

I am glad to see Burmester is being talked about on these forums, they are superb gear in my opinion.

if you haven't had the chance to hear the 218 do yourself a favor and take a listen, I started my Burmester journey with a 956mk2, upgraded to a 911mk3, upgraded to the 216 and have now settled on the 218

going up a level with each amp they all got better, more dynamics, deeper/wider soundstage better control, you name it, drastically better.  the speed and dynamics of the 218 is as good as I have heard in quite some time

just wanted to share some of my journey and joy of owning Burmester, highly recommend.

ckr1969
zuesman
207 posts
 

CKR 1969, 

I can say that you'll be disappointed because I've heard both of them now you haven't obviously, the Sim audio 861 amplifier will leave the 218 in the dust you will hear stuff way in the background in the small little details that you won't hear with the 218 because unfortunately it uses local feedback which masks those fine little details, The background is much blacker with the 861 so until you hear them both side by side like I have you obviously are talking from being uninformed unfortunately and I'm not saying that the 218 is a bad sounding amp it's very good it's just not as good as the new 861.

zuesman
207 posts
 

ckr1969,

what is BS? The fact that you can't handle the truth? like I said I've compared them both stereo amp to stereo amp obviously you have not that's why I can tell you that the 861 is better so until you go listen to the both side by side you can't say BS to anything because you haven't done the comparison have you? but if you like overpaying for inferior product that's totally up to you.

zuesman
207 posts
 

just wanted to let everyone know who's interested I just bought the new SIM audio 861 amplifier and compared it to the Burmester 218 which costs $70,000 in Canada, the new SIM audio amplifier at $29,000 Canadian sounds better than the Burmeister 218 at $70,000, the new MDCA circuitry that SIM audio developed is a real game changer it's the first A/AB amp on the market that I know of that uses no local or global feedback all the other amplifiers that use no global feedback still have local feedback in them which affects the sound, so if you want to overpay and pay $50 or $70,000 for a German amp that will be bested by a $29,000 amp from  sim audio go right ahead but you've got to give yourself the opportunity to go listen to the 861, I think after you listen to it you won't be spending 50 or $70,000 for an amplifier. It's that good.

grislybutter
3,270 posts
 

I am stuck at 70,000 for an amp. You can buy an apartment for that.

 

ghdprentice
7,179 posts
 

@zuesman

Thanks for your comments. You say sounds better. Could you compare and contrast the differences? That would be interesting to know. 

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