ckr1969,
what is BS? The fact that you can't handle the truth? like I said I've compared them both stereo amp to stereo amp obviously you have not that's why I can tell you that the 861 is better so until you go listen to the both side by side you can't say BS to anything because you haven't done the comparison have you? but if you like overpaying for inferior product that's totally up to you.