Enough is Enough

Congratulations for your room upgrade for sure!

You will be amazed ...

The problem when i spoke about acoustics knowledge is people think merely about the room...

But i spoke about conceptual basic acoustics applied even on speakers design...not about room panels.. I used "a mechanical room equalizer" made of many tubes of various proportion located at the right spot...

I modified my speakers which punch way above their price...With tubular set of various tubes extending from the inside to 3 feet outside in some case. I use tube to focuss the tweeter wave... etc

Acoustics and psycho-acoustics is about understanding what is going between brain/ears/speakers/room...

Audio is acoustic mainly not about consumers spending money on " better" gear... We cannot know what is worst or better nor what is optimal in a non controlled speakers/room for specific ears/brain...

mahgister,

I agree with your comments regarding the room. I’m working on improving my room acoustics and HT system.

How can i became glad with 100 bucks speakers i used to hate and put aside for 12 years?

Because i used acoustics basic to improve them ...

Now they reach their optimal level which is unknown to most people owning them as i was for 12 years..

I only used them again when i had no other choice in my last house...

But now i was ready after hundred of acoustics experiments in my first dedicated room...

You can think that i am deaf...

if you own very costly speakers know that i dont claim that my low cost speakers beat yours...

I only claim that you dont know what your costly speakers are capable of in a non controlled room with non controlled gear...

Before upgrading learn how to embed optimally what you already own and be surprized...

I had 1/2 dozen hi end dealers in around a big city I lived in. A bunch of us were part of an audio club that met 1 or 2 times a month listening to people’s setup as well as finding new artists/groups. On many occasions, at 10pm on my way home, I would stop off a this large record/cd new/used dealer and would buy a handful of discs/albums of new people we just listened to. 1 hi end dealer told 1 of our club members to get out of his shop because the owner said you’re not going to buy anything anyway. We all stopped shopping there. Pretty rude.

The room is the most important piece of the audio puzzle, that includes sizing the room and treating it. When building a couple custom houses, I built a room within a room to get the right golden size which was a big expense. The room will not perform miracles, a Sony/pioneer system will still sound like a Sony/pioneer, but a well thought out room will allow you to get the best sound quality your components will allow, where a bad room, your $100k system might sound like a Sony/pioneer system. 

Then after the room, its system synergy. This can be speaker/amp pairing, preamp/amp pairing, and then cable pairing. For example, when you see B&W speakers at the dealer or at a show, most of the time you will see them teamed up with warmer sounding amps from McIntosh or Classe. Or you wouldn’t buy a 5 watt SET amp with 83 db speakers.

Yeah , if anyone insults you or your gear, you probably shouldn't be doing business with them anyway. I always appreciate dealers who can talk equally enthusiastically about a $200 wiim pro, or a $5,200 rose streamer.  There's no need to look down on good products in any price category. 

Why don’t you state what your Audio system contains and maybe myself or others maybe suggest something, synergistic not it all depends what exactly you are looking to improve and $$ how much to spend .. I have been into Audio 40+ years 

owned a Audio store for a decade spent more then a nice home on Audio 

and now I am semi retired I now try to get the most out of my budget 

for less then 1/2 of my old $100 k + system , now I am using the latest technologies to be my guide , in amplifiers I am ready to get the new Final product from class D Audio their GanFet transistor Class D amp mono blocks total different ball game .

like a stun gun small but packs a punch  each Ganfet 90:amps x4 in just mono block ,dynamic great control very detailed neutral but not bright it just gets out of the way , I had mine tweaked with all Furutech connectors Hifi tuning fuses 

it comes stock with  WBT connectors ,  6 lbs each 300 wpc into 4 ohms 5000+ watt peaks for under $2500, a true find in 2 weeks starts production  can’t wait I had the prototype..  I sell Denafrip digital and excellent quality ,build for your Buck and competes well with Anythung in its price the New Gen15  clsss I am very happy with ,the 12th not so much so . Yes there is much better out there I don’t have $20k just for my dac. My new Innuos Zenith Mk3 is excellent 3- LPS power supplies nice Teac cd ripper ,SS drive great Sense app interface  and very intuitive 

and well thought out total vibration treatment throughout even their feet , hospital grade input filter and isolation transformers for the streamer and lan input as well as the output to the dac . Tubulus my go to Digital cables v throughout and fair priced .  And use a LPS power supply from your router- modem combo 

it truly lowers your noise floor alot , That $5 wall wart just adds noise to your system , Linear Tube Audio best LPS by a Mile for $700: on Audiogon .

try it your like it !!