I hate to say it, but now I think maybe I like my amp in ultralinear mode versus triode


It's a Cary V-12; it features a dozen EL34s and each pair has a switch in between them that configures that pair to either triode or ultralinear. In full triode Cary listed in the specs that it makes 50 wpc and in full ultralinear 100 wpc.   For most of the twenty three years that I have owned this amp I have always felt that I preferred triode except for the occasions that I wanted to full out blast (it has literally been many years since I've felt the need to full out blast).

However, today I experimented with a couple of things in my system, and after listening to the same "Jazz Essentials" (compilation) red book CD a couple of times all the way through, the next thing I experimented with was switching to full ultralinear.

Maybe there was more "PRaT"?  (Which is a term I am still not sure that I completely grasp.)  Maybe . . . but what I do feel I noted for sure was that the imaging (particularly the imaging in the center) had more weight (meatier?) and was presented more forward, which I actually like.

I put a few more hours in (one more time with Jazz Essentials, Holly Cole/It Happened One Night, Dave's True Story/Sex Without Bodies, selected tracks from Rebecca Pigeon/The Raven and Once Blue/self titled and Norah Jones/Feels Like Home) after switching to ultralinear.  (No booze during this session, just coffee.) The jury is still out on this, but I do have some CDs in mind that I want to listen to over the next few days as I continue to evaluate.  

immatthewj

@immatthewj to answer your questions, after I recapped with those specific caps, and tried different designs of silver-over copper and more pure copper interconnects between source/preamp, preamp/amp, in my case, and for my particular speakers it was a dead-on match for my taste and ears. Not to over think this too much - I simply enjoyed those particular EL34s at the time. I figured out who was making them for Ruby lable brand [at that time] and the sound is where I wanted it to be, for me. So, I did not change to different tubes, although I came close to trying the reissue Genelex KT77s regardless of what anyone says about them, and the only reason I did not do that is I wanted to try separate tube mono blocks with a dedicated ultralinear circuit, double the transformers and power caps instead - with my speakers. Someone really wanted to buy my V12R at the time, and I struggled with selling it. I sold it only to try the monos as an experiment to run with my speakers [trying different amps with my own custom speakers I build/built], to install the exact same caps, and even better Nichicon power caps, and compared from there. Everything was how I needed it on the V12R. Had I kept it, I might have tried KT77s, and once again, keeping bias down to 200-210 per side, max. Sound find, tubes last longer. btw, I’m trying new input tubes this weekend, on the monos to try and model one input tube set I had on the Cary V12R, trying to bring the sound of the new amps closer to what I had with the V12R prior. Just testing, trying, listening.  

Oh, and No, I did not want to mess any more with the prior amp or the switchable circuit or trying to un-switch it, left it as is, it sounded great as-is, and decided to move to dedicated ultralinear mono amps.  This has been yet another chapter of learning, upgrading, listening and has paid off nicely too fwiw.  

@emergingsoul  wrote:

Again a nice diagram would be nice

@atmasphere  had previously written:

@emergingsoul The term 'ultra-linear' was used to describe the invention that is the subject matter of US patent number 2710312A. You'll see it used in the text of the patent. Its an accurate description of  the time about a break thru in amplifier technology. Diagrams of how it works are at the link.

Again:  

Diagrams of how it works are at the link.

@immatthewj 

Yes the link was very helpful. It's good that I am very intelligent and can understand these things. Thank you

Yes the link was very helpful. It's good that I am very intelligent and can understand these things. Thank you

Yes, that is good.  I am happy for you.  But do not thank me; thank @atmasphere ,  as he posted the link a few posts before you said you would like to see a diagram.

Regardless of what we each think of the term "UltraLinear", and its alignment on the good-versus-evil spectrum, I found the following diagram most succinct and easy to digest. It’s from a web search that hits el34world dot com.

Note the wiring in the orange boxes (these would be easily controlled with switches), and the "UtraLinear" taps coming from the transformer primary, to the right - these UL taps are the legs that are positioned (symmetrically) between the 2 outer taps (each tied to their corresponding push/pull tube’s anode plate) and the center tap. These particular taps are disconnected in triode and pure pentode modes. They are connected to the corresponding tube screen grid in UL mode.

I assume the exact % of the UL taps’ positioning between outer taps and center tap is what’s at issue for "optimal" UL loading to a given output tube type - as circuit gurus like Ralph have pointed out.

In pentode mode, both tube screens are tied to the center tap. In triode mode, each screen is tied to its own tube's anode plate.