DAC shopping - Trying to sift through the Hype. Can I trust the reviews these days ??


Hi All,

Well I've been reading a ton of threads about DACs. This is a very complicated endeavor, trying to find a new DAC. My 1st question is: Can I trust all the Youtube reviews these days ?

Seems like everyone is promoting the same DACs. I'm looking into a R2R Dac. Tons of hype for Holo May,Cyan,Laiv Harmony,Denafrips. Are these truly great Dacs or are they just the flavour of the month ?. There is almost zero negativity towards these Dacs. It's kind of like when the Eversolo streamers came out. Seemed like every reviewer was pushing the Eversolo. So searching for a new DAC online almost seems like sponsored ADs everywhere, am I wrong in feeling this way ?

That all being said here is my criteria for a new DAC (Probably searching the used market to get best value)

I believe I want to go with a R2R Dac, but it's not a dealbreaker.

My budget: $1000-$3000

My system: Bryston 3B Cubed, VTL(tube pre),Bel Canto 3.7 Dac(with upgrades), Antipodes Ds-3(player/server).

I really enjoy my Bel Canto 3.7, but it doesn't have USB input and I'm curious how much better a DAC sounds in 2024, compared to an older Bel Canto,. My BC has an upgraded linear supply. Once again this DAC sounds beautiful, but when its not compared to anything......Maybe I'm depriving myself of a better DAC. This is the only DAC I've had with existing equipment.

I know plenty of you will say go audition as many DACs as you can, but that is difficult unless it's hooked up to my gear. Won't help going to a store with a DAC being hooked up to different gear.Plus I want to buy used. I can buy higher end with a bit of a discount.

 

From my research these are the DACs I'm thinking of pursuing:

Laiv Harmony

Denafrips Pontas ii

Holo Cyan

 

You can tell from my choices that I've been buying into the hype.

Please add to my list of DACs and please dispel any extra hype over the most talked about models.

Cheers.

128x128bunkertoy

@vthokie83   Yes, the terminator 15th has 190 hours on it and it is fantastic compared to the Venus II. Like the reviews say -more of everything that is good. It is a fantastic DAC, it's smoother than the Venus, yet far more detailed. Timbre is so realistic, bass has much more texture and authority but not overwhelming. I have not heard any $20K DACs but this thing is special.

Exactly what I wanted to hear, I haven't personally heard the 12th Terminator or Venus.....Terminator and/or Terminator Plus will be on my short list when I upgrade

I have the MSB Cascade .. I don't think there's any hype about it and it is fantastic but it does cost a lot of money though.

When we compared the Terminator Plus 12th to our Directstream Signature Series PLUS DAC it did quite well however no where as good sounding.  It had good detail however it did have some congestion and not as open and real sounding.  We even used it's clock out feeding the Hermes DDC however we feel it didn't really help or change the sound much.

There are soooo many DACs.  I’ve been using a Denafrips Pontus 2 for the past couple of years and just picked up a new Holo Audio Cyan 2 on the used market. I wanted a DAC that was R2R, had i2s input, and could take an upsampled DSD signal so I could play with HQPlayer. So far so good. It’s similar in character to the Pontus 2 but with more detail and better imaging. Not a huge upgrade but HQPlayer should take it to a higher level.  Good luck in your search.